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Old January 29th, 2008, 01:03 AM   #41
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So all the rest are people crossing the tracks?
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Old January 29th, 2008, 01:18 AM   #42
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So all the rest are people crossing the tracks?
main part are pedestrians crossing tracks (953) and accidents on level crossings (360).
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Old January 29th, 2008, 10:52 AM   #43
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It seems that the single best way to improve rail safety therefore is to eliminate as much as possible access to track by pedestrians and cars. Expensive measures such as improving signalling would be pretty useless from a safety perspective as the passengers are already very very safe anyhow.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 04:17 PM   #44
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ICE train hits herd of sheep at 250km/h and derails - 20 sheep die

Today: ICE 885 from Hamburg to Munich was driving at 250km/h when it hit a herd of sheep which was standing at the opening of Germany's longest rail tunnel. 20 sheep were killed. The train derailed and continued to slide into the tunnel. 3 passengers were heavily injured about 20 lightly injured.













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"The tunnel was full of smoke and dust, I thought I had to suffocate", reported a 47 year old German to DPA. "I am still gray from head to tow much like you saw on pictures from 9/11 in New York". Walking towards the opening of the tunnel she saw the sheep. "First I thought it was a pile of meat but then I realized that it were dead sheep, or half dead sheep, some were still alive and looked at me."





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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:00 PM   #46
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Why are there no fences like in Spain for example?
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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #47
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Why are there no fences like in Spain for example?
Official answer: "there are 40,000km of rail tracks in Germany, you cannot fence them all in".
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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:15 PM   #48
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Yes but they can fence the tracks with high speed train.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:15 PM   #49
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Its "a herd of sheep" not "a herd of sheeps". You don't need the 's' on the end.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:19 PM   #50
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Its "a herd of sheep" not "a herd of sheeps". You don't need the 's' on the end.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:25 PM   #51
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Yes but they can fence the tracks with high speed train.
Of course. They can also fence in all the 40,000km. They probably just don't want to pay for it because Deutsche Bahn will be privatized very soon and the price that the government can achieve with the sale might be negatively affected if there are huge expenses for fencing driving down the earnings.
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wait what? The train DERAILED because of some sheep? What the hell!
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wait what? The train DERAILED because of some sheep? What the hell!
Maybe metal sheets from the damaged front got under the wheels?

As a security mesaure they should probably retrofit all ICE trains with prominent wild life bumpers like you see on Australian road trains. That would also be much cheaper than fencing in thousands of km of tracks.

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Yes but they can fence the tracks with high speed train.
Right, they can fence the LGVs.
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Anyway, even if there are no fences, aren't these trains supposed to have a security system telling them if there is any obstacle on their way several kilometres in advance?
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Anyway, even if there are no fences, aren't these trains supposed to have a security system telling them if there is any obstacle on their way several kilometres in advance?
I don't think that an ICE has such an obstacle detector.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 06:45 PM   #57
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its really strange that the germans always come up with the strangest HSR accidents in the world. Eschede, Transrapid-Maglev, now this one....in Japan or France accidents like that dont happen...
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Poor sheep. :'(
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its really strange that the germans always come up with the strangest HSR accidents in the world. Eschede, Transrapid-Maglev, now this one....in Japan or France accidents like that dont happen...
They do happen in France too, remember the crash between a lorry and the TGV some months ago!
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Poor sheep. :'(
Just hitting McDonalds restaurants all over Germany: the all new Sheep Mac (limited edition).

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