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Old May 24th, 2008, 10:27 PM   #161
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that is a terrible accident
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Old May 25th, 2008, 12:55 AM   #162
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Four weeks later and you're still arguing about some "sheeps" on the track ...
Actually sheep left the discussion a few pages back.
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Old May 26th, 2008, 08:35 PM   #163
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It turned into a discussion about how many sheep you can fit into 1 train.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 08:33 PM   #164
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Not to mention how ended the German efforts in this field ...
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What do you mean? In Germany are ICE-T trains in service („T“ for tilting), so which ending do you mean?
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Old May 31st, 2008, 12:57 PM   #165
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What do you mean? In Germany are ICE-T trains in service („T“ for tilting), so which ending do you mean?
The ICE-TDs had many problems with the engines and the tilting mechanisms and as far as I know they are dropt out off service.

In the other hand, if you want, we can open a discussion in another topic for which rail technology is more advanced, German or Japanese.

But now it' s funny that from sheeps we are discussing for tilting trains.
Sorry for my English ...
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The ICE-TDs had many problems with the engines and the tilting mechanisms and as far as I know they are dropt out off service.
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I spoke about the ICE-Ts and they are in service since years now.
The ICE-TDs are now in service again between Hamburg and Kopenhaven.
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Old November 10th, 2008, 05:13 PM   #167
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French Worry About Sabotage on Rails

France worried about 'sabotage' campaign on national rail network
9 November 2008
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The French government said Sunday it was worried about a "sabotage" campaign after another attack severely disrupted the country's rail network, long seen as one of the most efficient in the world.

"That alas is the reality," said Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau when asked on French radio if the acts of vandalism might be the result of organised sabotage, adding that police had been instructed to be extra vigilant.

His comments came a day after thousands of French rail passengers suffered long delays or cancellations in the north and east of the country after high-speed rail lines were attacked.

Vandals jammed iron bars into overhead power electricity cables in four separate locations, leaving hundreds of passengers stranded for hours in trains and thousands more crowded into stations trying to get on delayed trains.

Railway officials said that it was the fourth time in three weeks that "malicious acts, even sabotage" had hit the railways.

The high-speed line from Paris to the north was worst hit, with Eurostar services to Britain and Thalys services to Brussels and northern Europe, as well as trains to northern France, badly affected.

The networks serving the east and southeast were also hit. In all, 160 services were affected with delays lasting between 10 minutes and more than four hours.

Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie has ordered a top-level inquiry into the incidents.

Services had already been disrupted by the discovery of the mutilated body of a man on the main line to the north.

France's normally efficient and punctual rail network is a source of national pride. But in recent months it has been hit with a series of high-profile incidents, some caused by infrastructure problems but several by apparent vandalism.

Just a week ago, the SNCF said that gun shots had severed an overhead cable on the line of a high-speed TGV train in the Paris region, severely disrupting traffic for 50 trains.

In a separate problem, Eurostar trains between London, Paris and Brussels have been disrupted since September 11 after a fire in the cross-Channel tunnel injured several people and shut one of the two undersea rail lines.

Disruption due to infrastructure problems in recent months has angered passengers, and on Monday Transport Minister Bussereau said the government would more than double investment in the rail network to reach 13 billion euros (17 billion dollars) by 2015.

Under the programme launched on Monday, the government says it will spend some two billion euros annually up until 2015 to modernise rail infrastructure, more than double the 900 million euros spent in 2007 and 2006.

The new commitment will "create an impetus that will end the vicious cycle of a network caught in degradation," said Hubert du Mesnil, president of the French RFF rail infrastructure company.
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Old November 11th, 2008, 01:52 PM   #168
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10 people from "ultra-leftist movments" (anarchists) where arrested today.
According to Michelle Alliot-Marie, interior minister (police...), no SNCF/RFF workers are involved.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 11:03 AM   #169
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Indeed no railway workers appear to be involved, but the conservative daily Le Figaro gleefully quoted an official of the radical Rail-SUD trade union as saying that they would "strongly oppose" anyone who dare to suggest a link between terrorism and industrial action. That kind of denyal is almost worse than a confession, and...

...there have been some suspicions lately because very often small technical mishaps occur in connection with railway strikes. For instance, last week there was a strike on some of the suburban lines, which wasn't very well adhered to by the railway workers. (I remind you that here in France going on strike is an individual right rather than a trade union right, so you rarely get 100% walkouts...) However, my commuter line was badly disrupted because "someone" had dropped a spanner in an electric cupboard on the eve of the strike. Unsurprisingly, this has evil tounges wagging about radical trade unionists using industrial sabotage as a means of leveraging the effect of their strikes.
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Old November 16th, 2008, 09:33 PM   #170
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What was the truck carrying?
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Old November 16th, 2008, 09:41 PM   #171
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That's funny, North American trains could hit a garbage truck with less damage than this.
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Old November 17th, 2008, 02:37 PM   #172
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thats because they're used to it
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Old November 17th, 2008, 08:15 PM   #173
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EDIT: Just realized that this thread was started months ago... thought it was a current thread.

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Not only me bro.
I saw a report from third party (the California High Speed Authority) that says that the Shinkansen has the largest passenger capacity from all High Speer Train Systems and proposes the Japanese to take the project.
I can send you the study if you want ...
Can you send me the study? I'm really interested in the CAHSR.

Anyway, capacity is not equal to superiority, anyhow. Capacity is a result of necessity. If you run high speed rail between two smaller cities, capacity of a trainset isn't as important.

For example, what's better for the passenger... 3 1000-person trains per hour or 6 500-person trains per hour? I'd argue the latter.

Japan's trains ARE however superior in some ways:
  • Earthquake detection
  • Flawless safety record (partially due to the insistence on high safety standards for tracks like completely separated guideways)
  • Best Acceleration
  • Quiet (strict noise pollution laws)

However, all these features are borne out of Japanese necessity. Cultual reasons and lots of tunnels and rail lines near populated areas mean noise pollution is an issue (They have noise guards on HIGHWAYS in Japan).

Being in a Seismic hot zone means advanced earthquake detection systems are required.

Stops that are 100km apart mean acceleration and braking are more important than top speed.

Also, someone said Japan didn't want to sell its system. That's not entirely true. They marketed the Shinkansen system early on but didn't have any buyers. I haven't researched why, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was due to the countries that were in the market for HSR were already developing their own, and the Japanese system isn't as good a fit for many of those countries that don't require the advanced features (and added cost) Japanese systems had. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Japanese didn't want to compromise quality on certain issues like Safety (completely separated tracks with NO level crossings, for example)

They reluctantly compromised when it came to providing Taiwan High Speed Rail... to allow trains to run in two directions on a single track. In fact, due to these compromises, domestically, the Japanese tend not to brand the Taiwanese system a "Shinkansen" system.

Currently, Japan has provided HSR to China and Taiwan, and is under negotiations with Vietnam, California and India to provide those countries with HSR. (California is like a mini-country)

It's great technology that is continuously improving (the FasTech 360 will run at 320km because of noise issues (Tunnel Boom) AND also efficiency... as at those speeds, caternary pickups wear more quickly)

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Old November 18th, 2008, 12:15 AM   #174
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What were the sheep doing in an HSR tunnel?
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That's funny, North American trains could hit a garbage truck with less damage than this.
Not at 250km/h.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 03:19 AM   #176
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Poor sheep. :'(
we would kill them anyway
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we would kill them anyway
They must have been mutton chops now!
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The Amtrak train the Vermonter hits cows more often than you'd imagine.
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Transnet Freight Rail in South Africa runs a line through a game reserve and hit an elephant a few years ago!. This line links the port of Richardsbay with the Kingdom of Swaziland.
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The Amtrak train the Vermonter hits cows more often than you'd imagine.
Europeans don't tend to build their trains like armoured behemoths like they do in North America. It's a bit of a toss-up between speed, safety and energy efficiency. Most of the time this isn't a problem judging from the number of train crashes across Europe compared with North America.
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