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Old April 2nd, 2015, 05:18 AM   #221
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Great news. The Atlanta Streetcar, Georgia's greatest achievement since the Olympics, will remain free through the end of 2015! This is not an April Fool's joke.

Throngs of visitors have been flocking to the streetcar, Atlanta's unexpected transit success story. New lines are being built all over town to rapidly transport folks throughout the region. An urban renaissance for the heart of the New South.

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Old April 2nd, 2015, 11:03 PM   #222
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Lol really? What about those articles saying the trains were empty.
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Old April 9th, 2015, 10:47 AM   #223
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I think they build a small loop to learn from. They keep the overhead wirering simple be glad About that.
And why is the tram slow, to warn the other street users.
Now you pay 0,60 $ / liter gas wait till you pay 2,30 $ / liter.
We have over 100 years a tram in the city.

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Old April 9th, 2015, 04:57 PM   #224
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Lol really? What about those articles saying the trains were empty.
Well, it was April 1 when I wrote that. The joke is on the federal taxpayer, however.
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Old May 13th, 2015, 05:12 AM   #225
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IMO, Atlanta's next rail line (either heavy or light rail) should be known as the Pink Line, except if it serves the gay neighborhoods which it should be known as the Brown Line, since Pink Line could be potentially offensive and would also promote gay stereotypes. After all, the Asian-American communities objected to the Yellow Line, which is why it was renamed the Gold Line.
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Can we just respect the fact that a transit agency made an otherwise completely insignificant design change (Yellow to Gold) and a community felt a whole lot better as a result? That actually sounds like good governance to me, especially in a city with as strong a relationship between public transportation and racial politics as Atlanta.
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Old May 14th, 2015, 08:58 PM   #227
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Can we just respect the fact that a transit agency made an otherwise completely insignificant design change (Yellow to Gold) and a community felt a whole lot better as a result? That actually sounds like good governance to me, especially in a city with as strong a relationship between public transportation and racial politics as Atlanta.
Yes, and if a new line were to serve the concentrated gay areas, it should be any color but pink. My choice of brown was completely random.
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Old May 14th, 2015, 11:56 PM   #228
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Yes, and if a new line were to serve the concentrated gay areas, it should be any color but pink.
This is getting off-topic, but I don't think pink necessarily has the same discriminatory connotations for LGBTQ people as yellow has had for many Asians/Asian-Americans. Pink has been reclaimed in many cases as a positive symbol of the LGBTQ community. Think the Silence=Death campaign, bright colors in general at pride parades, etc.

To get back onto the question of how we identify and perceive transit, connecting transit names and colors to the culture of the communities they serve is a really interesting question. In Los Angeles, a proposed line through West Hollywood, a major LGBTQ hub of LA, has the working name of the Pink Line. I can't speak for everyone, but as an LGBTQ person I think it would be pretty great to name a line through a gay district the Pink Line!
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This is getting off-topic, but I don't think pink necessarily has the same discriminatory connotations for LGBTQ people as yellow has had for many Asians/Asian-Americans. Pink has been reclaimed in many cases as a positive symbol of the LGBTQ community. Think the Silence=Death campaign, bright colors in general at pride parades, etc.

To get back onto the question of how we identify and perceive transit, connecting transit names and colors to the culture of the communities they serve is a really interesting question. In Los Angeles, a proposed line through West Hollywood, a major LGBTQ hub of LA, has the working name of the Pink Line. I can't speak for everyone, but as an LGBTQ person I think it would be pretty great to name a line through a gay district the Pink Line!
Even though it may not be offensive to some gays, it is still politically incorrect because it promotes gay stereotypes. Gay men do not like or wear pink any more often than straight men. In my dream light rail and streetcar system for Phoenix, the Pink Line is intentionally routed through a politically conservative area (most of Chandler and all of Gilbert and east Mesa), which probably has a lower than average gay population for the Phoenix area.

Luckily Chicago's Pink Line doesn't serve either of the city's two gay communities.

After all, pink is my favorite color and I wear it almost all the time, but that doesn't make me gay. I have received a lot of compliments from girls with my pink shirts.
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In my dream light rail and streetcar system for Phoenix, the Pink Line is intentionally routed through a politically conservative area (most of Chandler and all of Gilbert and east Mesa), which probably has a lower than average gay population for the Phoenix area.
Politically conservative areas likely have lower than average openly gay population, but a higher than average closeted component.
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Old May 15th, 2015, 01:40 AM   #231
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Politically conservative areas likely have lower than average openly gay population, but a higher than average closeted component.
Including, but not limited to 99% of anti-gay politicians
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Old May 15th, 2015, 02:17 AM   #232
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Politically conservative areas likely have lower than average openly gay population, but a higher than average closeted component.
Doubt it. Most gays (either open or closeted) probably prefer to live in a more liberal area, since the local laws are more likely to work in their favor. In fact, in my dream light rail system for Phoenix, the Pink Line is only one of two lines (the other being the Silver Line) that doesn't serve Tempe, which is the most liberal city in the Phoenix area and probably the most gay-friendly.
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Even though it may not be offensive to some gays, it is still politically incorrect because it promotes gay stereotypes.
The question of political correctness has a lot to do with the dynamics between who creates an image and who is represented by it. There's a difference between stereotypes and cultural iconography, and the difference has to do with who is creating and sustaining that imagery, and why.

Stereotypes come from people outside a group, often with the intent of marginalizing that group. This is why ideas like "women only care about money and appearance" or portrayals of Asians as yellow devils are so damaging: they operate hand-in-hand with larger cultural and structural forces that attempt to disempower those groups. I don't think anyone could suggest that stereotypes like those are anything but politically incorrect.

Icons like the rainbow flag or even the color pink, on the other hand, come from the community they represent as a way of fostering a common identity and pride. They seek to bring people together in order to strengthen social ties, increase political power, or even just feel more powerful or lovable in the face of a world that tries to disempower them however it can. It's not politically incorrect to connect LGBTQ people to an icon like the rainbow flag or the color pink when the people making that connection in the first place are the LGBTQ community themselves.

These icons, or even colors themselves, do not require everyone to feel the same way about them. For example, the rainbow flag signifies peace and international cooperation in other places, not gay pride. For some it might represent neither or both of those ideas. The fact that a group of people rally behind an image or color to mobilize their communities doesn't require you to see that meaning yourself. Red might mean communism for some, AIDS awareness for others, or even just the color you like to wear most.

Here's the beauty of all of this: LGBTQ people don't have to like the color pink. You can love the color pink. You and everyone else can feel however they like the color pink. It's a free country, and you're free to enjoy pink as much as you like, just like some gay people can dislike pink as much as they like. The fact of the matter, though, is that color pink has been a piece of LGBTQ culture for decades and a positive force for bringing the community together. Commemorating that history through the built environment (monuments, a painted crosswalk, or even the name of a transit line) is, in my opinion, an entirely appropriate way of acknowledging the meaning it holds for many people.
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First Quarter 2015 Ridership numbers for Atlanta

Source : http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship-APTA.pdf

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Atlanta / Marta Bus - 191,400 (2015)


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Atlanta / MARTA - 217,100 (2015)
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Old September 16th, 2015, 06:11 PM   #236
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FTA announces TOD grants
16 Sep 2015

USA: The Federal Transit Administration announced grants totalling $19·5m from its Transit-Oriented Development Planning Pilot Program on September 14. The funding will go towards detailed planning in 17 metropolitan areas.

‘Transit-oriented development is critical to the success of new projects and to the economy of the local communities they serve’, said FTA Acting Administrator Therese McMillan.

Six of the 21 projects concern BRT corridors. The remaining 15 cover a mixture of urban rail modes

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Two projects in Atlanta are on the list. MARTA is in line for $1·6m to create a strategic plan for TOD on the I-20 East Corridor, which includes a 19 km metro extension to the northeast of the city. The City of Atlanta is getting $500 000 to implement its BeltLine Transit Supportive Land Use Implementation Plan, a strategic outline of actions to be implemented along 26 km of the streetcar corridor

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Atlanta streetcar vandalism















Source: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-l...raffiti/nnkYb/
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Where are the streetcars stored that the public has such easy access to them?
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Underneath the I-75/85 viaduct midway through the route. IIRC the place is literally fenced in with cameras all over the place and looks like a 'streetcar prison' when closed up for the night.
Looks like Barney Fife was guarding the place apparently...
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