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Old September 28th, 2015, 02:22 AM   #241
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First time I've seen a light rail get graffiti bombed. Thought that was the domain of 1980s NYC subway :p

MARTA is underrated and had potential. It moves a lot of people and its two lines succeed in going places people want to go such as directly under downtown, midtown, buck head, etc.

It just needs an epic refurbishment, extensions, and or a inner loop line.
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Old September 28th, 2015, 05:43 AM   #242
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Where are the streetcars stored that the public has such easy access to them?
For some, these types of things are a big challenge and they'll go through great lengths to access transit vehicles and the harder it is the more rewarding an accomplishment. In this case with it being a new system and perhaps the thrill of being the first people to successfully mark them being strong motivators, it may not be an indication that the vandals had "easy access" at all.
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Old September 28th, 2015, 07:01 PM   #243
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Atlanta has an extremely poor public transportation system. MARTA is just two lines (roughly speaking, because for example gold and red lines diverge not too much).
It still has pretty much the largest and most well-developed public transportation system in the American South (which, admittedly, isn't a very high bar). It's light-years ahead of both Dallas and Houston, and has much more utility than Miami's Metro. (The Jacksonville 'People Mover' isn't worth mentioning).

The system as it stands now is a good foundation for something bigger. It most definitely needs new lines. Atlanta should stop messing around with the ridiculous streetcar (which largely duplicates existing MARTA service) and work on heavy rail extensions instead, or something like the proposed Beltline.
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Old October 10th, 2015, 07:09 AM   #244
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Some Atlanta Intercity & Commuter Rail concepts from Track 29



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Old October 12th, 2015, 11:17 PM   #245
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Old October 16th, 2015, 12:15 AM   #246
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Some Atlanta Intercity & Commuter Rail concepts from Track 29
I thought it is an official plan, and I admired visionary. But, that is just a proposal from civil sector. Very good proposal, but that would be very diifficulte to pass.
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Old November 5th, 2015, 05:06 PM   #247
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Second Quarter 2015 Daily Ridership numbers for Atlanta

Heavy Rail / MARTA - 224,900 (2015)
: 0.91% +
Bus Ridership / MARTA - 197,500 (2015) : 0.94% +
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Streetcar is no longer free

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/02/us...e-by-some.html
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Old January 5th, 2016, 05:05 AM   #249
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third Quarter 2015 Daily Ridership numbers for Atlanta

Heavy Rail / MARTA - 243,500 (2015)
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Bus Ridership / MARTA - 205,800 (2015) : -2.84%
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Atlanta Journal-Constitution
http://www.myajc.com/news/news/local...yAJC_streetcar

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GDOT latest to raise concerns with Atlanta Streetcar
Posted: 6:43 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 12, 2016

By Katie Leslie - The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

The Georgia Department of Transportation is the latest agency to point out shortcomings in the operation of the Atlanta Streetcar.

A draft report, released on Jan. 8, provides yet another snapshot into the chaotic first year of the $98 million system, the subject of blistering safety audits, security breaches and high staff turnover.

Among the top findings: The city and MARTA lack clarity when it comes to their roles in running the streetcar; nearly 50 percent of “safety-critical” positions were unfilled; many workers have received inadequate training; maintenance deficiencies exist; the city has failed to implement the random and post-accident drug and alcohol testing required by federal law and, furthermore, hasn’t properly documented and reported accident information to state officials.

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Streetcar proves to be a failure:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local...ew-fare/nqRDW/

This could prove fatal for other proposed streetcars in the country. Opponents will simply need to say "Atlanta" and those projects, in many cases, will die on the drawing board.
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It should be a lesson of pointless loop streetcars that don't go anywhere. I'm amazed at the amount of them the US has built in the first place.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 02:47 AM   #253
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Streetcar proves to be a failure:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local...ew-fare/nqRDW/

This could prove fatal for other proposed streetcars in the country. Opponents will simply need to say "Atlanta" and those projects, in many cases, will die on the drawing board.
Tucson , Seattle , Portland have done well... Atlanta and DC seem to be rare failures...
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Old February 17th, 2016, 03:34 AM   #254
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Tucson , Seattle , Portland have done well... Atlanta and DC seem to be rare failures...
2/5 isn't "rare"..
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Atlanta and DC seem to be rare failures...
LA might join them
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We shall see with the other cities set to open this year , I don't think Cincy or Kansas city will be flops...
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If the streetcar was a integrated system around the city instead of a single loop downtown it would be less of a "failure". This is just the first step in an expansive streetcar network so the only failure now would be to give up and have a single loop.
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Tucson , Seattle , Portland have done well...
Tucson has done well?

The numbers you've cited suggest otherwise....

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...2&postcount=73

Incidentally, the city of Tucson has a significantly larger population than the city of Atlanta.
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Tucson has done well?

The numbers you've cited suggest otherwise....

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...2&postcount=73

Incidentally, the city of Tucson has a significantly larger population than the city of Atlanta.
Its done well enough considering how small it is and they are considering expansions...
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If the streetcar was a integrated system around the city instead of a single loop downtown it would be less of a "failure". This is just the first step in an expansive streetcar network so the only failure now would be to give up and have a single loop.
The issue with the loop, is that it's uni-directional.
I think that's why many people eschew it.
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