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Old June 24th, 2010, 02:31 PM   #21
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wow nice system Atlanta , didnt even know the city has a metro , more pics please
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Old June 24th, 2010, 02:44 PM   #22
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Great to have a thread on Atlanta at last! I love their system, it is probably one of the least known and most used (compared to world/US knowledge of cities with systems) metro systems we have. The N/S, E/W and connection to the airport make it a great system that connects a large part of the city, it really has been a unifying system.

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Old June 24th, 2010, 09:24 PM   #23
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wow nice system Atlanta , didnt even know the city has a metro , more pics please
Will post more tonight.

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Great to have a thread on Atlanta at last! I love their system, it is probably one of the least known and most used (compared to world/US knowledge of cities with systems) metro systems we have. The N/S, E/W and connection to the airport make it a great system that connects a large part of the city, it really has been a unifying system.

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Definitely. It's a shame that it doesn't recieve state funding. It's a very effective system and it has a solid ridership but it'd likely be compared to the likes of The Metro in DC.
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Old June 25th, 2010, 02:22 AM   #24
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List of heavy-rail transit systems in the United States by daily ridership (Q1 2010)

1 New York City Subway New York City 7,512,100

2 WMATA Metrorail Washington, D.C. 919,300

3 CTA 'L' Chicago 638,100

4 MBTA (or "The T") Red, Orange, and Blue Lines* Boston 478,600

5 BART Bay Area 343,200

6 SEPTA Market-Frankford and Broad Street Lines* Philadelphia 314,800

7 MARTA Atlanta 242,700

8 PATH New York City 236,400

9 Los Angeles County Metro Rail Red and Purple Lines* Los Angeles 147,500

10 Metrorail Miami 61,100

11 Baltimore Metro Subway Baltimore 49,300

12 Tren Urbano San Juan 36,100

13 PATCO Speedline Philadelphia 35,900

14 RTA Rapid Transit Red Line* Cleveland 18,600

15 Staten Island Railway New York City 15,300

16 Detroit People Mover Detroit 6,100

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Old June 25th, 2010, 05:32 AM   #25
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hhee there wasnt an Atlanta thread before? gee. The MARTA system looks like the Brasília system in Brazil.
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Old June 25th, 2010, 05:59 AM   #26
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MARTA reminds me of what might happen if the Washington Metro and BART had a child.
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Old June 25th, 2010, 08:28 AM   #27
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It's got a very Melburnian feel - 3 doors, 6-car sets, similar internal layout, car bodies are superficially similar, corrugated surfaces, late 70's feel apparent in the underground station designs. The only huge visual difference is the use of ground-level power instead of catenary.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #28
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Can anyone explain why Avondale station has four tracks while all (except Five Points) of the other stations on the line have 2 (that I am aware of)?

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Old October 15th, 2010, 12:09 AM   #29
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Avondale Yard, probably.
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Old October 15th, 2010, 12:11 AM   #30
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For being a "auto-orientated" city I have been impressed by riding MARTA in the past when I have visited Atlanta. It always seems to get used, it is just too bad it does not get enough funding for expansion.
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Old October 15th, 2010, 12:14 AM   #31
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It doesn't get any state funding because MARTA and Atlanta is located in a state where lot of people and politicians hate anything urban.
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Old October 15th, 2010, 03:28 AM   #32
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Looks like a small system. Looks very clean though.

Atlanta needs a commuter rail service.
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Old October 15th, 2010, 03:02 PM   #33
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For being a "auto-orientated" city I have been impressed by riding MARTA in the past when I have visited Atlanta. It always seems to get used, it is just too bad it does not get enough funding for expansion.
It is not so much that the state does not fund the system (thought that is a huge problem) but rather that MARTA must use 50% of their revenue from the sales tax on capital projects and only 50% on running the system. They have a difficult time expanding since they are already stretched too thin for funding the daily operations. If it could be changed to something like 40% for capital projects or even 35% then they could invest in more expansion, IMO.

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Looks like a small system. Looks very clean though.

Atlanta needs a commuter rail service.
Actually IIRC it is the fifth longest (in length) in the USA for heavy rail metro systems. That does not include light rail systems though, so if they are taken into account then several other cities would be higher. Without a doubt though, they do need a belt line LR or HR and commuter rail from outside the current MARTA service area.

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IMO, the Atlanta system is on par with what Baltimore should have. A clear N/S line with an E/W line and then a few spurs here and there to serve different communities.
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MARTA reminds me of what might happen if the Washington Metro and BART had a child.
Well, the Atlanta's metro system was designed and built at the same time as those two systems. (If Forward Thrust had passed in 1968 or 1970 we'd be saying the exact same about Seattle.)
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Actually IIRC it is the fifth longest (in length) in the USA for heavy rail metro systems. That does not include light rail systems though, so if they are taken into account then several other cities would be higher. Without a doubt though, they do need a belt line LR or HR and commuter rail from outside the current MARTA service area.

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Doesnt really mean much.

Only systems you can use to explore the whole city is Chicago L, NYC Transit, and Washington Metro. I would say LA, since its pretty big, but the system isnt big enough to get to a lot of places.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 03:52 AM   #37
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It is not so much that the state does not fund the system (thought that is a huge problem) but rather that MARTA must use 50% of their revenue from the sales tax on capital projects and only 50% on running the system. They have a difficult time expanding since they are already stretched too thin for funding the daily operations. If it could be changed to something like 40% for capital projects or even 35% then they could invest in more expansion, IMO.
I also think a larger part of the problem as well is that other local jurisdictions in Metro Atlanta (ie Gwinnett County, Cobb County, Clayton County) refused to join MARTA because of higher sales tax/fear of crime, etc (you know the usual bullsh*t from scared suburbanites).
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Plus the lack of state funding as I mentioned earlier.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 07:58 PM   #39
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I also think a larger part of the problem as well is that other local jurisdictions in Metro Atlanta (ie Gwinnett County, Cobb County, Clayton County) refused to join MARTA because of higher sales tax/fear of crime, etc (you know the usual bullsh*t from scared suburbanites).
Yep, we're hearing that same BS in Hillsborough County, Florida too about light rail or any rail. Most of the rail lines built in this country run through crime-prone neighborhoods in the first place and have at least one station/stop to connect residents in them neighborhoods.

MARTA looks like a very successful system though and having the amount of daily riders posted is pretty impressive. Any idea how much the system ridership numbers are when it comes to a Braves or Falcon game?
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Old October 17th, 2010, 09:28 PM   #40
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How about expansion plans? Are there any?
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