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Old December 6th, 2013, 03:48 AM   #161
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Only every 15 minutes? I bet you could walk half the route length in that time.
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Old June 25th, 2014, 09:20 PM   #162
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Some pics from the facebook page




Last streetcar (there's only 4?) has been delivered.

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Old June 27th, 2014, 12:17 AM   #163
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I have a feeling about that streetcar line, It's the same feeling that Wile E. Coyote should have when he's calling Acme to order another anvil.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 06:36 PM   #164
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It's just a toy, not a real and adult public transit system
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Old June 27th, 2014, 07:52 PM   #165
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It's just a toy, not a real and adult public transit system
There are plans to expand it though. it's just a start.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 08:39 PM   #166
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There are plans to expand it though. it's just a start.
Exactly. I might add that the idea is that these downtown loops are eventually to become the core of a hopefully much more extensive system. I can't speak for Atlanta's in this context. Unfortunately, they're not being built with those standards in mind, with their shared lanes and lower usability. While I'm sure the idea is to acclimate the region's drivers to the presence of streetcars and to educate the public on how to negotiate them, the reality is that conservatives might point to low ridership (and well duh they have low ridership at the moment, based on where they go) as evidence to never expand them. It's a political challenge and will need strong support if expansion is ever an option.

Now the role of streetcars in today's transportation systems is an entirely different and entirely legitimate question that I don't really plan on getting into.
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Old August 19th, 2014, 11:30 AM   #167
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Atlanta Streetcar begins dynamic testing
18 AUG, 2014


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On-street testing has begun in Atlanta ahead of the launch of the city’s new light rail system later this year.

Siemens-built S70 trams will began a programme of dynamic testing on the 4.4-kilometre route on August 15.

During testing, the LRVs will be towed a low speed between the $92 million network’s 12 stops to check clearances.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 09:14 PM   #168
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MARTA expansion of coverage area

Clayton County (south suburbs of Atlanta) has voted to join MARTA. They will get local bus service and may eventually get commuter rail or BRT. It may make sense to extend the existing north-south MARTA rail line south of the airport, although it doesn’t seem that’s being planned at this time.

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Supporters of a referendum that would expand MARTA to Clayton County were jubilant Tuesday after returns throughout the night showed the measure passing by a wide margin.

Pro-transit advocates proclaimed a historic victory at the Friends of Clayton Transit election watch party in Riverdale, where a crowd of more than 100 volunteers, organizers, politicians and MARTA officials gathered.

Clayton is now poised to become the first new county to add MARTA since the agency began operating in DeKalb and Fulton in 1971.

“People recognized the opportunity to increase travel options was something they wanted to say yes to,” said Colleen Kiernan, director of the Sierra Club’s Georgia Chapter.

Of metro Atlanta’s five core counties, Clayton is the only one that lacks a local public transit system. A county-operated bus system, C-Tran, was dissolved in 2010 due to lack of funds. MARTA supporters hope the transit line will spur economic development and revitalization.

The vote means Clayton’s sales tax will rise from 7 percent to 8 percent, starting in March. The MARTA tax is expected to generate proceeds of about $45 million per year.

Half the money will finance limited bus service starting in March and full bus service the following year. The other half will be set aside for a future commuter rail or a comparable form of high-capacity service (such as bus rapid transit).
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Old November 5th, 2014, 09:16 PM   #169
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Clayton County (south suburbs of Atlanta) has voted to join MARTA. They will get local bus service and may eventually get commuter rail or BRT. It may make sense to extend the existing north-south MARTA rail line south of the airport, although it doesn’t seem that’s being planned at this time.

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Updated: 12:35 a.m. Wednesday, Nov. 5, 2014 | Posted: 12:20 a.m. Wednesday, Nov. 5, 2014

Supporters of a referendum that would expand MARTA to Clayton County were jubilant Tuesday after returns throughout the night showed the measure passing by a wide margin.

Pro-transit advocates proclaimed a historic victory at the Friends of Clayton Transit election watch party in Riverdale, where a crowd of more than 100 volunteers, organizers, politicians and MARTA officials gathered.

Clayton is now poised to become the first new county to add MARTA since the agency began operating in DeKalb and Fulton in 1971.

“People recognized the opportunity to increase travel options was something they wanted to say yes to,” said Colleen Kiernan, director of the Sierra Club’s Georgia Chapter.

Of metro Atlanta’s five core counties, Clayton is the only one that lacks a local public transit system. A county-operated bus system, C-Tran, was dissolved in 2010 due to lack of funds. MARTA supporters hope the transit line will spur economic development and revitalization.

The vote means Clayton’s sales tax will rise from 7 percent to 8 percent, starting in March. The MARTA tax is expected to generate proceeds of about $45 million per year.

Half the money will finance limited bus service starting in March and full bus service the following year. The other half will be set aside for a future commuter rail or a comparable form of high-capacity service (such as bus rapid transit).
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Old November 9th, 2014, 12:52 PM   #170
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Now can we please get Gwinnett and Cobb County s to at least approve the heavy rail part of MARTA to go through?

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Old November 23rd, 2014, 08:14 AM   #171
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Safety concerns delays Atlanta Streetcar
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Nov 20 2014 10:40:41 AM EST




The streetcar is now expected to debut in December

The Atlanta Streetcar won't be debuted in November. Safety concerns has caused the release of the streetcar to be delayed.

The system was first scheduled to start operations this summer, but was delayed to November due to preparations and testings. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports the expected debut of the streetcars is now December 6.

Federal Transit Administration told the newspaper the mayor was informed of the safety concerns. The administration was told the streetcars could not go into service until the safety issues were taken care of.

Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed says the issues have been addressed

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Old December 6th, 2014, 12:55 AM   #172
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Atlanta Business Chronicle
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Report: Atlanta Streetcar start delayed – again
Dec 4, 2014, 5:34am EST
UPDATED: Dec 4, 2014, 4:55pm EST

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Atlanta Streetcar isn't expected to open to riders on the city's latest targeted launch date of Dec. 6. The date was selected after the downtown streetcar project missed other targeted start dates.

Mostly recently, the city missed a planned mid-November launch due to safety concerns by the Federal Transit Administration. In early November, the Federal Transit Administration flagged "outstanding safety and hazard mitigation issues," WABE reported.

The FTA has not yet signed off on passenger service, which means Atlanta Streetcar will not, as city officials had hoped, be available to visitors to Atlanta during the SEC Football Championship Game on Saturday, WSB-TV reported early Thursday. City officials are still hopeful the streetcar will open by the end of the year, the station said.

In addition to being delayed, the project is over budget. The City of Atlanta said in January of 2012 the total cost of the East-West route of the Atlanta Streetcar was $69.2 million. In July of 2014, Streetcar spokeswoman Sharon Gavin said costs were "hovering around $100 million," WABE reported. City officials said in July that construction issues dogged the project and raised its price.

Mayor Kasim Reed told the FTA in mid-November that safety issues the agency had flagged had been addressed and that the system was ready for passengers. The FTA responded it still had concerns.

Atlanta Streetcar was involved in a crash with a car on Nov. 23, marking the second accident for the system during its testing phase. A car tried to pass the streetcar during a test run near Centennial Olympic Park. A week earlier a car hit the streetcar on Ellis Street.

The Atlanta Streetcar will operate on a 2.7 mile loop with 12 stops. The route stretches from Centennial Olympic Park to the Martin Luther King Jr. Historical Site. The east-west route represents Phase One for the Atlanta Streetcar project. Additional routes and phases are in design and planning stages, according to the Atlanta Streetcar website.
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Old December 6th, 2014, 05:31 PM   #173
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Any new Metro stations and / or lines in near future?
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Old December 28th, 2014, 05:11 PM   #174
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Fed-supported Atlanta streetcar to open Dec. 30
By Keith Laing - 12/23/14 05:14 PM EST

A nearly three-mile streetcar system in Atlanta that was built in part with money from the federal government is scheduled to open on Dec. 30, the city’s mayor, Kasim Reed, announced Tuesday.

“Proud to announce the @ATLStreetcar will open for passenger service on Tues, Dec. 30,” Reed tweeted. “Join us for the celebration. #StreetcarReady.”

The Atlanta streetcar line, which will run from the city’s Centennial Olympic Park to its Martin Luther King Jr. National Historic Site, cost nearly $70 million to build. The federal government contributed about $47 million to the project through the Transportation Department’s Transportation Investment Generating Economic Recovery (TIGER) grant program

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Old December 28th, 2014, 08:14 PM   #175
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About time one of the half dozen- or so streetcars being built around the country that should've been open by now starts running.
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Old December 28th, 2014, 09:56 PM   #176
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A nearly three-mile streetcar system ...
What? They have seriously built a tram that runs for less than three miles? What on earth is the point of doing that?

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Edit to add - I've just looked back in the thread and see there are plans to extend it, but seriously there is no point in a 2.7 mile loop with a 15 min service interval. It is, as has been mentioned, a toy that will have terrible ridership and be held up as an example that public transport doesn't work. Honestly, what a stupid idea.

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It is supposed to be a start to a hopefully larger network. plus it does connect some neighborhoods in the east to the CBD. Either way, most of these new downtown streetcar systems run usually no more than maybe a few miles. While I would agree, that some seem no more fit for good ridership than the Detroit people mover (which believe it or not, a few people actually use to commute). While Portland is already a well known example, I would also look at the under way project in Cincinnati which connects a VERY dense district of Apartments that has much economic potential (over the Rhine if you're wondering the name), with a relatively walkable Central Business District. Honestly, I think we here in Richmond could seriously benefit from even 3 miles, as the system could actually easily connect a lot of major neighborhoods (that are just out of walking distance to Downtown) with Downtown.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 08:18 PM   #178
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What? They have seriously built a tram that runs for less than three miles? What on earth is the point of doing that?

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Edit to add - I've just looked back in the thread and see there are plans to extend it, but seriously there is no point in a 2.7 mile loop with a 15 min service interval. It is, as has been mentioned, a toy that will have terrible ridership and be held up as an example that public transport doesn't work. Honestly, what a stupid idea.
A few factors at play here, in addition to the idea that this could someday expand:

- Atlanta has heavy rail and buses, but the former reinforces the city's relatively linear development pattern. This LR line is designed to help foster some depth/width to that density by branching outward in a run that could not be accomplished by HR. In the future you may see more similar spurs connecting neighborhoods to the HR stations, but using LR as a means of keeping neighborhoods intact.

- The east end of this line is not only along the MLK historic sites (a popular tourist attraction) but more importantly is on the other side of the Interstate overpass from downtown. Like many cities Atlanta regrettably used the interstate system (intentionally or unintentionally) to segregate business district from poor neighborhoods, meaning those neighborhoods became poorer still. This LR line is intended to soften the connection between downtown and east Atlanta, so that the cavity formed by the interstate is more readily breached.

- Atlanta still faces a variety of political pitfalls regarding mass transit, and even though rail is viewed more favorably than buses that doesn't mean there's popular support. This combined with the limitations placed on government funding meant any news transit options would be prohibitively small. The result is a minor project that could only go in places where it was feasible and welcome. The hope is this becomes a modest success that could spur continued growth in support.
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Streetcar map from urbanrail.net. Congratulations Georgia!

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It is really great to see more and more cities in the US develop public transport
But now they should start to work on an extension asap! Perhap something like Georgia Tech - Five Points (marta).
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