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Old June 30th, 2010, 05:41 PM   #1
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Barcelona and Madrid, from May to May

Last May I visited Barcelona, and this May it happened to be Madrid, so here is my “Tale of Two Cities”, illustrated with a lot of pictures!

Firstly, visiting Spain as a tourist is more likely to start from Barcelona than from anywhere else. But if a Spain, its history, way of life, language etc., is a main goal of your travel, Catalonia (and its capital Barcelona) is not the most relevant point to start up building your image. It is the most developed and westernized region of Spain, it has its own language, culture, history, mentality of people, and differs from the rest of the country in many ways, so better understand it as a bridge from West Europe to the rest of the Pyrenees.

I’m starting with Barcelona now, enjoy and feel free to post your comments!

First encounter with a city was Placa de Catalunya
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This is very important transit and people meeting point, a huge metro station is beneath, with many metro/sub-city lines, and the place where old Barcelona starts – which is where we’re heading.

La Rambla is the main street which leads to the Colombo’s monument at the sea bank, and bisects an old city. It is completely packed with tourists and backpackers, but even so it has a great atmosphere and charm in it. Going to the sea, on the left side is Barri Gotic and on the right is El Raval, both very picturesque and worth at least a day of exploring! This is a view from a cable car on La Rambla
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and a street views...
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Miro’s mosaic in the middle of the street
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Somewhere near is a passage to the very cool square, Placa Real
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This lamps are designed by senor Gaudi...
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Heading trough the beautiful streets of Barri Gotic (en. Gothic quarter)
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Carrer de Ferran, a neat shopping street...
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...which leads to the administrative centre of a city - Placa De Sant Jaume. This is where Parliament of Catalonia and the City Council are located.
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The main square in Barri Gotic is the one in front of the cathedral. The church itself is the finest example of Catalan gothic architecture and is been built since 1298, to be finally finished in the early 20th century. Next to it are Roman walls and some museum in the catacombs...
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The stroll continues...
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This is Portal de Angel, a shopping avenue in the district, with all well-known (middle class) brands like H&M, Camper, Mango, Zara... not to be missed
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For more unconventional shopping, like urban or vintage stores, I suggest the streets of El Raval district. This is a very interesting quarter, but less fancy and not as pretty as Barri Gotic, populated mostly with immigrants... Here is also where the Museum of Modern Art and University are located, but also lots of cafes and restaurants, Chinese and Turkish stores - a mix of everything! I also found a ‘red-light’ street, guarded by the police on both ends
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Old June 30th, 2010, 06:50 PM   #2
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And these are some modern buildings on the end of Barri Gotic
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Recently renovated market of Santa Caterina
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Gracia was a separate town until mid 19th century, when a famous boulevard network was constructed to join all those satellite towns and villages with an old Barri Gotic and El Raval, making the present-day city of Barcelona... This was definitely my favorite part of the city, very hip and laid-back atmosphere, lots of young people, great shops, bohemian restaurants... It very much reminded me of Prenzlberg in Berlin, but in a Mediterranean style, so it can’t be bad
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L’Eixample is made of hundreds of rectangle building blocks, but every corner is jet different
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Placa de Espana is a very busy cross road and this towers signify the entrance to the Fair. The famous Mies van der Rohe Pavilion from 1928 is inside, and this arena, used for bullfighting, is now reconstructed by the Richard Rogers design to the new cultural centre, with cinemas, galleries, offices...
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A little further is a hill where first we climb to the Art Museum of Catalonia
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Behind the museum starts the park which leads to the Olympic complex from ’92...
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... but in front of it is a phenomenal spot with the breath-taking view to the city
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A stroll trough the park and then on a cable car down to the harbor
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Landing...
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View on Barceloneta, Port Olimpic and Forum in the end
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Rambla de Mar leads to Maremagnum shopping mall
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Old June 30th, 2010, 06:55 PM   #3
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Amazing, very nice photos from Barcelonaso far, liman_drzava keep it up
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Amazing photos from Barna, I just have to comment one thing from your introduction. When you said that Barcelona doesn't represent the common Spanish culture I realised again how difficult is for you foreigners to understand how Spain as a country works. There is no such a general Spanish culture. If you are looking for sevillanas, bullfighters and flamenco, then go south to Andalucía. Of course catalan traditions are different from andaluzian traditions. The same happens within Vasc traditions and galizian traditions or within traditions from Madrid and the ones from the Balearic islands. There are four official languages in Spain and hundreds of local differences. Anyway thanks for your photos. As I said there are great.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 07:22 PM   #5
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Thats something I learned deckard_6, having now been to Madrid, Barcelona and the southern cities like Marbella, Sevilla and Cordoba.

Anyway, great photos mate, looking forward to more, of both Barcelona and Madrid!
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Amazing photos from Barna, I just have to comment one thing from your introduction. When you said that Barcelona doesn't represent the common Spanish culture I realised again how difficult is for you foreigners to understand how Spain as a country works. There is no such a general Spanish culture. If you are looking for sevillanas, bullfighters and flamenco, then go south to Andalucía. Of course catalan traditions are different from andaluzian traditions. The same happens within Vasc traditions and galizian traditions or within traditions from Madrid and the ones from the Balearic islands. There are four official languages in Spain and hundreds of local differences. Anyway thanks for your photos. As I said there are great.
Thanks for comment, I may only agree. Being to Madrid and Toledo after Barcelona, and that 'cultural shock' made me realized how the country is diverse. For me, this trip just fitted more in my idea of Spain, than the first one to Barcelona, so I made that remark because of that, and to encourage people to travel and explore beyond Barcelona
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A former fishing village, La Brceloneta is now a very interesting neighborhood just on a seashore.
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I bet it is even more cool in the summer heat, reminds me of LA
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And a visit to Barcelona wouldn't be complete without, of course, Antonio Gaudi and his masterpieces. First building he designed was the Casa Vivens
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Park Guell
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Casa Guell in El Raval district
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A visit to La Pedrera was a complete success, I highly recommend to go to museum and on the rooftops
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Passeig de Gracia, the ‘smartest’ street in the city
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Lamps are also designed by him
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Nearby is a well-known Casa Batllo
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And for the end, Sagrada Familia, in building since 1882.
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That’s it from Barcelona, Madrid is still to come...
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Great thread!

I really enjoy threads like this, with "common" pictures... "Artistic" pictures are beautiful, but I think that they don't show how a city, in fact, is... Sometimes, "artistic angles" hide many interesting things...

Anyway... I love Barcelona and Madrid... I can't say which one I prefer... Today, maybe I have a slight preference for Madrid, but the fact is that both are among my favorite cities...

Thanks for sharing these pics, they're very nice! I'm looking forward for the Madrid ones (and for the Barcelona ones, if you have more to post, lol)!

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It is the most developed and westernized region of Spain, it has its own language, culture, history, mentality of people, and differs from the rest of the country in many ways, so better understand it as a bridge from West Europe to the rest of the Pyrenees.


The only way a part of a country can be considered more "Westernized" is if it is in general not considered part of the West.

So where would you put Spain then? Or Portugal for that matter?

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pakkhhhhh bcn is just.... awesome
if possible you can post pics of high-rise buildings tnx

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Firstly, visiting Spain as a tourist is more likely to start from Barcelona than from anywhere else. But if a Spain, its history, way of life, language etc., is a main goal of your travel, Catalonia (and its capital Barcelona) is not the most relevant point to start up building your image. It is the most developed and westernized region of Spain, it has its own language, culture, history, mentality of people, and differs from the rest of the country in many ways, so better understand it as a bridge from West Europe to the rest of the Pyrenees.
x1000.

In first time the richest and more developed regions in Spain are Basque Country, Madrid, Navarra and Catalonia, more or less in this order, but the really "LOL" is the next, "westernized"? What's Spain? China? ALL Spain is 100% westernized because Spain is a western country.

And thank you for share these really nice photos, but I had to reply this amazing sentence
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Ja us agradaria xatos... si no fos per pertanyer a la UE i per l'impuls de les regions riques, econòmicament serieu subdesenvolupats (socialment i políticament ja ho sou i ens arrossegueu a tots a ser-ho).
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Ja us agradaria xatos... si no fos per pertanyer a la UE i per l'impuls de les regions riques, econòmicament serieu subdesenvolupats (socialment i políticament ja ho sou i ens arrossegueu a tots a ser-ho).
This is an international thread, please speak in English, or at least in another language spoken/understood all around the world (like Spanish or French), but not in a language without any international repercussion. Be polite, please.

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Ja us agradaria xatos... si no fos per pertanyer a la UE i per l'impuls de les regions riques, econòmicament serieu subdesenvolupats (socialment i políticament ja ho sou i ens arrossegueu a tots a ser-ho).
tu que cerques, una baralla?? perque diguent tant d'idoteses el aconseguiras, ignorant seras tu, i no fa falta que ho digui, ja el demostres amb el que dius

are you looking for a fight? because, saying stupid things, you will get it, and it is not needed to say by me, it is already demonstrated by what you say
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he can't be polite...

he thinks that catalonia, like so many, is the best in the world, that with out them the world is ended haha, they are inspirated in the modernism haha

fortunately, my family didn't transmits that to me
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The only way a part of a country can be considered more "Westernized" is if it is in general not considered part of the West.

So where would you put Spain then? Or Portugal for that matter?

Well, obviously I'm not talking about geography, but westernized in a sense of mentality and common habits of people. For example, being late and very relaxed about time, shouting in the street, littering - those are just not the usual standards for the 'west countries', it's more a Roman thing if you can understand, and not so typical... Nothing wrong about saying that Lombardy is, well, the most westernized part of Italy, isn't it? You pick a criteria, it just is
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Well, obviously I'm not talking about geography, but westernized in a sense of mentality and common habits of people. For example, being late and very relaxed about time, shouting in the street, littering - those are just not the usual standards for the 'west countries', it's more a Roman thing if you can understand, and not so typical... Nothing wrong about saying that Lombardy is, well, the most westernized part of Italy, isn't it? You pick a criteria, it just is
With all due respect, I think that you have sort of shot yourself in the foot with what have been an otherwise great thread by putting in this BS into the first part.

And frankly, where would you put Serbia?

And Italy gave BIRTH to the modern Western culture, how would some parts of Italy NOT be Western. Especially ROME.
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