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Old April 17th, 2011, 01:06 PM   #81
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The intention was to have it open for the Games but it was more a Boris vanity project as 2012 organisers never felt particularly enthusiastic about it. As a long term project it's viability is debatable, it will take just as long to walk from the O2 to the car station, take the car across, and walk to Royal Victoria as it takes the Tube. The estimated number of journeys has been wildly overestimated especially in the long term.
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Old April 17th, 2011, 01:40 PM   #82
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If it's not going to be done in time for the games, then it really isn't worth spending money on this. It should be filed under "Potential White Elephant". It's not central enough to be a tourist attraction in its own right (unlike the London Eye) and there's simply not enough continuous demand between the docks and the Greenwich peninsular to justify it.
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Old April 17th, 2011, 04:34 PM   #83
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It's not even needed during the Games! The transport plans for 2012 and modelling have all been done without it, and even with the number of spectators who would use it is negligible. It's a mere tourist attraction but as a potential mode of transport what with it appearing on the Tube map it's laughable.

It's nothing more than a half-baked project to get a tinkering mayor more column inches in the run up to an election. There's bigger and more important projects he should be chasing funding for- but alas they aren't as 'fun' as this toy.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 01:11 PM   #84
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Just read on Yahoo:

"A spokesperson said the decision to pay upfront was "to aid the quick delivery" of the project, which TfL was "striving" to deliver in advance of the London Olympic and Paralympic Games in 2012.

They said this remained "an extremely challenging timeline for a complex project" and could not provide a date by which they were confident the scheme would be completed.

The spokesperson said that the initial costing had been a "preliminary estimate" and that the £50.5million contract included operational running costs of £5.5million for up to three years."


So looks like it is going up before the games.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 01:17 PM   #85
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Just before the mayoral election! What a coincidence.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 02:04 PM   #86
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Old April 18th, 2011, 03:20 PM   #87
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Full of both positives and negatives...

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Old April 18th, 2011, 03:34 PM   #88
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Just received an email from TfL saying they have appointed Mace and work will start this summer
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Old April 18th, 2011, 07:47 PM   #90
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2013?

So it isn't relevant to the Olympics.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 08:09 PM   #91
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It should be filed under "Potential White Elephant".
I think that's unfair on White Elephants to be honest. The only good thing about this is that it'll be the 'fiasco' that everyone has been holding their breath for.

It's got a very challenging time table for it to be completed by the time of the Olympics and it's budget has already double. No private company was interested in building this so that's why Bozo has told TfL to pay for it. Which means that the contractors know that they're going to have money chucked at them to finish it before Olympics.

This is going to be the 'Millennium Dome' of the Olympics. Unfortunately, unlike the real dome, there's absolutely no purpose for this after the Games themselves.

At the moment the budget for this is £50m. For Bozo's new bus that's another £11m so far (*), that's £70m which he should be spending on proper transport problems and solutions in London rather than on vanity projects.

(* estimated figure from Feb 2010 - probably higher now)
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Old April 18th, 2011, 08:30 PM   #92
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there's absolutely no purpose for this after the Games themselves.
Erm yes there is - to get people from A to B. Once The Royal Docks and North Greenwich become more developed the Cable Car will provide a nice alternative to Jubilee Line.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 08:59 PM   #93
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A more expensive alternative.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 09:02 PM   #94
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I think it's great this curious idea has got the go-ahead. It means it is far more likely Ken opens the games.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 09:03 PM   #95
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Erm yes there is - to get people from A to B. Once The Royal Docks and North Greenwich become more developed the Cable Car will provide a nice alternative to Jubilee Line.
Exactly my sentiments, and not forgetting imminent developments include the passenger liner terminal down river plus the hotels on the peninsula.

I was on the planning committee and voted in favour of construction, I am delighted to see this becoming reality.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 09:03 PM   #96
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This is going to be the 'Millennium Dome' of the Olympics.
The Millennium Dome of Boris's mayoralty- this project has nothing to do with the Olympics and it's legacy.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 09:05 PM   #97
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A more expensive alternative.
Youre just pissed that its Boris' project. The Cable Car will also take the pressure off Jubilee Line not to mention give Londoners a completely new view on the Capital.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 09:11 PM   #98
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you're just pissed that its Boris' project.
Damn right. A mayor that is pissing money up the wall on half baked schemes when far more worthy projects have been scrapped due to so called lack of funds- Cross river tram, Dagenham Dock extension, Thames Gateway Bridge etc.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 09:23 PM   #99
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Yes it is a shame these projects have been scrapped, however theres no need to attack everything and anything Boris gets involved in just because of it. Thats just childish.

The Cable Car is not 'half baked scheme' with no purpose. It is an important infrastructure project, that will provide an alternative to Jubilee Line, thus taking pressure off it and Blackwall Tunnel. No doubt it will also attract visitors to the area as people love this kind of thing which will in turn attract investment and create jobs etc etc.
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Has anyone ever seen TfL's Cost-Benefit Analysis document for this scheme?
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