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Old July 20th, 2010, 01:41 AM   #21
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ok, thanks for the explaination, but now you confused me...
is it called Verticity or Virticity?
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Old July 20th, 2010, 01:46 AM   #22
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verticity! Sry I don't know why I suddenly started calling it virticity, I know coz I need my bed
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Old July 20th, 2010, 01:53 AM   #23
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verticity! Sry I don't know why I suddenly started calling it virticity, I know coz I need my bed
oh right, my bed is also calling my name for two ours already
we have already 01:53 AM here in Germany so i'll go to bed now,
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Old July 20th, 2010, 02:38 AM   #24
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so pingyao do you have allready plans how the "city" will look like ?
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Old July 20th, 2010, 04:49 PM   #25
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Old July 20th, 2010, 04:54 PM   #26
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Nice! i like it! i only expected something fatter but i like it ;D
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Old July 21st, 2010, 03:46 AM   #27
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well maybe you could have a main tower and some smaller towers around it? btw it needs a theme park, i haven't seen anyone here do one b4 and it would be awesome
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no, no towers around it,just one big huge tower :p yea a themepark would be cool! maybe you could place some attractions in the huge atrium if this city ? (if there would be one)
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Old July 21st, 2010, 04:03 AM   #29
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oh lol, sorry i msunderstood the concept at first, i thought it was just going to be a high density city made of a few hypertall towers and stuff. it seems a bit odd to create an entire city in one building in the middle of no-where, i think these would be more likely in more urban areas but i like this one. what are you doing about power and water consumption and waste? perhaps using wind turbines around the exterior of the building and solar panels. as for the wind turbines, if u decided to make some and place them on the side of the building them keep them fairly small otherwise they would look out of place.
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well i would be a cool project
for example something like this in the middle of nowhere ..

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Old July 21st, 2010, 09:52 AM   #31
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Mike that's exactly the sort of thing I envisaged. Look there would be practical implications for not building a giant tower in the middle of the desert, but it would also be as self sufficient as possible.

Some points I have considered

1. Solar arrays and solar glazing would collect a significant portion of the cities energy use.

2. Wind turbines may take the form of a wind garden in the very crown of the structure, there could also be low level turbines around the building, although I'm not too concerned about that.

3. Natural air conditioning taking the form of 'wind traps' placed at various levels up the buildings structure siphon cool air into the structure, whilst hot air would raise up between a glazed void which would run around the perimeter of the structure.

4. Waste management plant would recycle most waste water. There would be a condensation plant attached to the greenhouses which would also capture water along with rain traps as and when it rains. Although the city would not be totally un-reliant on outside water sources it would be far more water efficient than a city of a similar size.

5. Food would be grown and bred as much as possible, from vast greenhouses surrounding the structure for growing fruit and veg. There would also be piggeries, a chicken farm and other 'farm' zones. Although no large farm animals could be bred due to the large amount of natural grazing land required.

I know that the building looks very thin, but bare in mind that I am currently designing something 3600m tall and 450m wide. A floor plate would be vast. magine if you had a city wedged in a valley that was 3.6km long and 450m wide, its the same principal but vertical.

I am currently considering building much shorter towers around the main structure and these would be commercial zones, keeping the main tower purely residential. The pros with this idea would be that the main tower could now be built solely for one purpose. Although I would still include shopping decks, cinemas, performance spaces etc.

Finally the reason I imagined this city would be built in relatively out of the way places would be to have minimal impact of other urban areas. I personally wouldn't want a 3 and a half kilometre high tower built in my back yard, and it looks cool in the desert!
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Old July 21st, 2010, 11:15 AM   #32
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Dude, you're so in it..

I'm gonna watch this thread a lot from now..
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Old July 21st, 2010, 02:16 PM   #33
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That's cool pingyao, so the buildings going to be "green" too. Anyway, what is your plan on getting up and down the tower? I am not so sure you can use elevators on the whole thing.
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At the moment I'm considering 2 main types of lift. An express double decker type and a 'local' single decker type. A cable with a length of 3.6km is a troublesome issue however, whether such a lift is feasible in a single section remains to be seen. I know some mines in South Africa go down to maybe similiar depths, although they probably also require a lift change or more.
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Old July 21st, 2010, 04:10 PM   #35
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At the moment I'm considering 2 main types of lift. An express double decker type and a 'local' single decker type. A cable with a length of 3.6km is a troublesome issue however, whether such a lift is feasible in a single section remains to be seen. I know some mines in South Africa go down to maybe similiar depths, although they probably also require a lift change or more.
Why not use some type of vertical train, maybe maglev?
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 12:50 PM   #36
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Interesting idea Malec and one I may well investigate further thanx. A few sketches I did last night when I was bored. I'm trying to work out the
infrastructure that will make up Verticity. Bascially there would be a road and high speed rail link. The road would disappear beneath the structure
where carparks and service facilities would be located. The rail link would run inside the base of the tower where there would be a terminus. I am
also considering a light rail transport that would loop around the whole complex and link the commercial zones which would be placed around
the towers axis.

Well the sketches kinda explain.

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office towers of 500-600m ? serious ? :o this project is going to be HUGE love it!
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 03:04 PM   #38
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Hahaha yeah I know, when I sketched it up and scaled it, those tiny blocks were between 5-600m! To put in perspective that pink hatched public circular area on plan is 1.5km in diameter!
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I really like the shape of this. Only thing I would say is maybe the height is too much. Something like 1500m would be better IMO.

For transport you will have to have methods for transporting large amounts of people so it certainly can't be a normal elevator I think.
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You will also need large service elevators aswellLiKe you have stores or supermarkets up there, you will need something to lift all products up the tower

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