#Project: Brisbane Cross River Rail (Planning Phase)

[crazyknightsfan]

Looks like it was done in Corel Draw.

[Orfeo]

Originally Posted by CKF

This map explains it pretty well (obviously at structure planning level, not detailed design)

thanks for that. somewhat more complex than the current arrangement.

i'm suprised the train station isn't aimed to be closer to Main St.

Originally Posted by Marty_

I have my fingers in my ears, am wearing a blindfold and playing loud music.

I'll hear no more of this!

I would say i'll never let you forget, but in truth that wont be necessary; it's only a matter of time before you embrace the Left with all your being. it's inevitable.

[crazyknightsfan]

Originally Posted by Orfeo

i'm suprised the train station isn't aimed to be closer to Main St.

This was discussed before - one reason put forward on here was the location of the Clem Jones Tunnel which would constrain a Main Street alignment.

I've also been told from elsewhere that the station is located where it is to be right in the centre of this TOD, as well as being closer to Mater etc.

It is still within easy walking distance of the 'gabba and Main Street so I've got no dramas with it...

[yommy]

Originally Posted by SoulvisionQ1

Whinge whinge whinge there comes a point where criticism like what that guy writes gets you no where and is just not constructive, and he seems to write a LOT of things which are complaining about seemingly everything.

A really random question which people may not know, what program do they use to create that UDLA concept map posted above? Might be handy for one of my subjects this semester.

I read his urban sprawl post after I read the linked post. It was quite funny because he criticizes a youtube blogger about complaining about NIMBY people in Milton and demands "proof" of her claims that urban sprawl is bad, and that high density housing is good in a sustainable way; yet in the link post he makes many claims (falling PT patronage, $10/passenger/trip subsidy) and "lack" of CBD jobs) with out once giving proof or even a hint of where he found this information.


To answer your actual question, programs like Photoshop/indesign from Adobe, or corel draw are two commonly used ones, but you can do works similar to that using Open-Office's Draw program, and even basic stuff using MS Word or Power Point. The programs that give the best end results are also the ones that have the harder learning curves, but well worth the time put in to learn them.

[Orfeo]

Originally Posted by crazyknightsfan

This was discussed before - one reason put forward on here was the location of the Clem Jones Tunnel which would constrain a Main Street alignment.

I've also been told from elsewhere that the station is located where it is to be right in the centre of this TOD, as well as being closer to Mater etc.

It is still within easy walking distance of the 'gabba and Main Street so I've got no dramas with it...

see i only read the last 4-5 posts; usually works so well.

makes sense though, and yes i can't complain. I think besides the TOD the potential for development is much more towards the Gabba end; there are already a few DAs for decent sized buildings in that area, though nothing particularly tall.

Mater's going to be well settup for PT.

[Map Born]

Thank you for the link to the BT article, disturbing to say the least for traffic arrangements, see the last pic in this gallery:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/phot...electedImage=0

This is my response e-mailed to BT's comment section about 5 mins ago:

The plans in your photo gallery show an artist's impression that Leopard St, the critical link for cars on River Tce between Vulture and Stanley St being downgraded.

Drivers and locals alike will not be happy with this and I suggest it will happen over my dead body.

BT, please do a follow on this aspect of the plan, question the pollies, will Leopard St between Vulture and Stanley Sts be downgraded, hindering freeway access? Will any existing freeway access be hindered or downgraded? Ask these questions until you get a sufficient answer.

I await with interest, thank you for a great news source.

I also note the right turn from Vulture to Main St could be impacted/reduced capacity also, not happy.

Do whatever you like within the boundary of the site, but do not introduce new traffic lights in an already congested area.

Left-in/left-out accesses only, with traffic lights to be at Leopard St as is currently the case and for the busway to be modified at the 5 ways.

[KJBrissy]

I down think the capacity is being downgraded at all? It looks like two lanes from Vulture Street to the freeway with an overpass over Stanley Street. Stanley Street would ramp up to the new road removing a set of traffic lights.

There would be no lights at the intersection at Vulture as it is a left slip from both directions (a left hand contraflow lane from River Terrace lights to the left slip.

I actually think it will reduce weaving, increase flow and increase urban design benefits.

[zach24]

Originally Posted by Marty_

If the government keeps this sort of thing up, I might vote for Bligh at the next election!

I deserve to be stabbed repeatedly for even thinking that, but I did.

I've always liked QLD Labor relative to NSW Labor and Federal Labor.

[Max Headway]

Originally Posted by yommy

The programs that give the best end results are also the ones that have the harder learning curves, but well worth the time put in to learn them.

I've been using the free open-source program Dia. Although easy to learn how to use, it doesn't allow you to rotate objects, and is about as stable as Damir Dokić on meth. Having converted the end result to a PNG file, you find artifacts upon close inspection. I'd rather use Inkscape or GIMP (free open-source as well) if I could figure out hoe to draw schematic maps with them.

[yommy]

Originally Posted by Max Headway

I've been using the free open-source program Dia. Although easy to learn how to use, it doesn't allow you to rotate objects, and is about as stable as Damir Dokić on meth. Having converted the end result to a PNG file, you find artifacts upon close inspection. I'd rather use Inkscape or GIMP (free open-source as well) if I could figure out hoe to draw schematic maps with them.

I've been using the Open-Office one a lot recently, it gives you a few options for saving (I think), but most importantly for me it gives the option of saving to a PDF file. Never heard of Inkscape so I must look into it, and although I know of GIMP I have yet to use it.


Incidentally, for those who might want to whip up some easy 3D models, Google Sketch is easy to use and free. I have used it a couple of time to make very basic models of site plans I have had to do.

[SoulvisionQ1]

Thanks for that, I like GIMP cause its easy to use.

[JayT]

It will be intersting to see how they fit 4 new underground stations and a new line on the rail maps. Given the maps are now crowded with lines, busways and city cats there is no room. They will probably have to re draw the entire network.

Anyone want to have a go?

[joninbrisbane]

well, there is my 2020 (or near there) map. Although, it doesn't include busways or ferries.

Originally Posted by joninbrisbane

This is my Brisbane map (2020)

[BrizzyChris]

You've left out the Park Rd station from the CRR line.

[joninbrisbane]

Whoops..

[JayT]

Hey that looks great. You've even used the new QR Logo.
PS - loving the new look train livery and station signs.

[bwistle]

Whats the new livery?

[KDreamer]

You know, it wouldn't look so crowded if you took out all of the duplication.

Instead of having say 7 lines in the cbd all stopping at the station, you really have only one. Yes, there truly is say 7 lines, but it's a delusion to think we have a massive transport system I swear. haha

Remove all the duplication and you'd have a rather measly network. IMO.

[beastjim]

Little tid bits I picked up from the new SEQIPP. The funding cycle for the project is intended to commence in 2012/3 so if it does take 4 years to complete it would be open in 2016/7. Also there is money for a connection from Mayne (That's the big railway yards next to Bowen Hills) to the Ferny Grove line, which would presumably allow for trains using the Cross River Rail to connect to the Ferny Grove Line (if it currently isn't possible, which we believe it isn't)

[KJBrissy]

That connection is to allow access to Mayne Rail Yards from the Ferny Grove Line to reduce dead running or something like that. Nothing to do with CRR.