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Old December 13th, 2010, 02:03 PM   #101
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There is already a S-Bahn in Zürich. This lines have the same rolling stock as the city trams (Cobra) but the have their separated tracks once they leave city proper.
S-Bahn is not a Stadtbahn in the way the terms are used today:
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Old December 14th, 2010, 12:21 AM   #102
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Is that (ugly) livery of the Cobra the new standard of the ZVV or exclusively for the new lines? I liked the old one a lot better.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 01:17 AM   #103
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The concession of the new lines is held by the VBG (Verkehrsbetriebe Glattal), but this subcontract their operation to VBZ, the owner of the vehicles. VBG doesn't have any vehicle, but subcontract all his services to othe operators, that have to carry its livrery (well...if you can call that a livrery...Swiss livreries usually are white on blue or blue on white...).
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Old December 15th, 2010, 09:42 AM   #104
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Is that (ugly) livery of the Cobra the new standard of the ZVV or exclusively for the new lines? I liked the old one a lot better.
To make Coccodrillo's answer clearer, it will only be used for the new lines.
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Old December 16th, 2010, 12:58 AM   #105
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It will be used only for the new lines in the Glattal region. The other planned lines in the others part of the city will certainly be operated by vehicles in VBZ livrery.
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Old December 16th, 2010, 08:38 AM   #106
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The next extension, "Tram Zürich West" is fully within city proper, so you are right. For any future line (Glattalbahn extention, Limmattalbahn) we don't know. I was speaking about the current extension. (Therefore I used the defined article "the").
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Old March 4th, 2011, 04:13 PM   #107
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Old March 27th, 2011, 01:11 PM   #108
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As for me the word S-Bahn is OK for the main lines in Zürich (Hirschgrabentunnel-based network of SBB). But it is nonsense to calling this way the Forchbahn wich is actually a tram or the Thurbo network east of Zürich.
Unlike metro S-Bahn is (was for decades) a very clear idea. Berlin, Hamburg, München, etc., very similar systems having different technical solutions but the same idea. Actually it was Zürich in 1990 that broke the tradition by using the word S-Bahn not only for the central network but for all regional lines in and around Zürich.
The idea of the S-bahn could be clear, but as a user of the S-bahn system some things are quite confusing.
In general S-bahn Zurich denotes SBB-trains which stops at all stations, but not always: Some S-bahn services skip some (or most) stations. Some S-bahn lines are more (fast) tram services or metrolike (S10). Also there are IR trains in Zürich. One connects Zürich Airport with the Main Station. Why isn't this train a S?

But maybe im complaining too much. The maps of the ZVV network is very clear, the standards are high and the service is fast. According to SBB itself they will develop the train system in Switzerland to "S bahn Schweiz" (RER in French speaking areas).
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Video of the new tram line in Zürich-West. Opened in December.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 10:43 PM   #111
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Video of the new tram line in Zürich-West. Opened in December.
I don't see a lot of people in the stations, how about the number of users? is it satisfactory so far?
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Old January 9th, 2012, 08:17 AM   #112
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There are not a lot of people on the streets either, so I suppose this wasn't filmed in rush hour. I think we need to wait until the first official statistic is published.

There are also a lot of buildings around the line that are not finished yes, especially the college of arts will generate many users.
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Testing starts on Zürich cross-city link
Wednesday, April 16, 2014



TRIAL operations have begun on Zürich's new Durchmesserlinie (DML) cross-city link, which is due to open on June 15, with a total of 60 test trains passing through the new Löwenstrasse station beneath Zürich's existing main station over the weekend of April 12-13.

These included all types of train used on the Zürich S-Bahn network as well long-distance ICN and IC2000 trains, with passenger information systems being tested for both regular runs and with simulated disruptions. A full-scale evacuation procedure with 500 people was carried out the previous week.

The DML is the biggest urban construction project in Switzerland, linking Altstetten with Zürich Main Station before curving under the city centre to Oerlikon with the new Weinberg tunnel.

Testing was carried out at Löwenstrasse station, which has four tracks, and Oerlikon, which has been expanded by two tracks to eight, although only six will remain in use after construction work at this station has been finished. The section between the Main Station and Altstetten is still under construction and due for completion next year.

The new link will shorten transit times for connections between east and west Switzerland can be significantly and create new direct links. It will also help to ease congestion at Zürich's Main Station, which on a normal weekday is used by almost half a million passengers.
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is there already a map of the s-bahn network zürich after the DML opening?
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 07:47 PM   #115
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Here you go:



This will be after the full opening (when the bridges to the west are finished).
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Project management tenders invited for Swiss LRT project
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LIMMATTALBAHN has issued a call for tender for contracts to manage the tendering and realisation of the civil works and railway technology elements of a SFr 715m ($US 797m) project to build a 13.4km light rail line in the Limmat Valley of the Zurich area.

The closing date for bids is September 16. Planning for the project is expected to be completed by the end of 2015 to allow construction to begin in 2017. The line is expected to open at the end of 2019.

The metre-gauge line with 27 stations will run from Zurich Altstetten to Killwangen-Spreitenbach, and 92% of the route will be on dedicated rights-of-way. It will be electrified partly at 600V dc and partly at 1.2kV dc. LRVs will operate at 15-minute intervals and an end-to-end journey time of 37 minutes is envisaged.
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Zurich Tram depots

As part of a project I'm doing, I've found a number of tram depots in Zurich, but I don't know the names of them. Can anyone help? The ones I've found are...
1) a depot (that looks as if it's in 2 halves) on the north side of Hardturmstrasse,
2) a depot on Irchelstrasse,
3) a depot on the south side of Kalkebrietstrasse. Is that a tram park on the north side of Kalkebrietstrasse?
4) a depot on the north side of Tramstrasse in Oerlikon,
5) a depot near the turning circle at the terminus of route 7 (Wollishofen?)
6) does the tram workshops on Badenerstrasse have a name?
7) What is the 'depot' on Limmattalstrasse at/near Wartau trammstop? Is it a storage facility for the museum?

Thanks in advance

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As part of a project I'm doing, I've found a number of tram depots in Zurich, but I don't know the names of them. Can anyone help? The ones I've found are...
1) a depot (that looks as if it's in 2 halves) on the north side of Hardturmstrasse,
2) a depot on Irchelstrasse,
3) a depot on the south side of Kalkebrietstrasse. Is that a tram park on the north side of Kalkebrietstrasse?
4) a depot on the north side of Tramstrasse in Oerlikon,
5) a depot near the turning circle at the terminus of route 7 (Wollishofen?)
6) does the tram workshops on Badenerstrasse have a name?
7) What is the 'depot' on Limmattalstrasse at/near Wartau trammstop? Is it a storage facility for the museum?

Thanks in advance
1) Hard
2) Irchel
3) Kalkbreite
4) Oerlikon
5) Wollishofen
6) Zentralwerkstätte Alstetten
7) Workshop and Store for Tram Museum Zürich.
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