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Old September 28th, 2010, 04:20 PM   #81
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What did you do El Greco or were you one of the terrified adults?
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Old September 28th, 2010, 04:23 PM   #82
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I told them to piss off and then the driver came out. At first I had hoped somebody else would say something, but no, infact even after I told them off nobody said anything, passengers just calmly looked out of the windows pretending nothing was happening.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 04:28 PM   #83
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You should have said that in your summary as it sounded like you did nothing.

Although most are loathe to do anything but tut afterwards you would thought at the very least one adult would have called the police whilst all this was happening. Probably to busy updating their mobile facebook page to say theres an incident on the bus.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 04:34 PM   #84
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People never do anything, I remember this incident when a 12 year old girl was raped in some stairwell in Hackney, after the attackers had cleared off she stumbled out onto the street looking shocked, bruised and clearly in distress and people she passed didnt even stop to help her. They simply ignored her. Where did it all go so terribly wrong?

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Old September 29th, 2010, 01:48 PM   #85
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People never do anything, I remember this incident when a 12 year old girl was raped in some stairwell in Hackney, after the attackers had cleared off she stumbled out onto the street looking shocked, bruised and clearly in distress and people she passed didnt even stop to help her. They simply ignored her. Where did it all go so terribly wrong?

Before people get all 'Daily Mail', I live in The Netherlands and they have the same problem with feral chavs here too.

Late last year, a group of 15-ish 10-15 year olds descended en masse into the supermarket across the road from my apartment. While 5 hung around outside, the remainder wreaked havoc inside, including beating up a Muslim check-out girl who was later taken away in an ambulance.

Apparently, not one of the people inside did anything.

I saw the mob arrive and called the police as soon as it was obvious what was going on. I then went down to see what was going on and was held back by the 5 outside. A scuffle kicked off between us and I even ended up right-hooking a particularly mouthy weasel, much to everyone's surprise. At that point, the rest of mob ran out of the store and all disappeared into the neighbourhood. I gave a statement once the plod arrived (I forgot to mention the punch), but didn't hear anything from the police afterwards.

In summary, the 'feral chavs' and the 'do nothing about it' attitude is alive and well over here too.
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Old September 29th, 2010, 05:37 PM   #86
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I dont think Britain is unique in this respect, the whole of the Western World is suffering from this problem. The question is why, what caused it?
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Old September 30th, 2010, 01:19 AM   #87
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Old October 1st, 2010, 12:48 PM   #88
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I dont think Britain is unique in this respect, the whole of the Western World is suffering from this problem. The question is why, what caused it?
The media insinuating that if you touch or even talk to a child you will end up in court for child molesting. The problem is that children are now taught by their peers that adults will not do anything and if they do, claim child abuse and molestation.
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Old October 6th, 2010, 03:46 PM   #89
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you only have to look at african and indian kids to realise discipline works - at home and in schools. Unfortunately the disciplinarian conjurs up images of a Victorian character wearing black and holding a cane, which nobody wants to be. They want to be modern and holistic and reasonable and progressive and those are all good traits, but there does come a time and place where a good hiding is the perfect solution.

Regarding the raped girl in Hackney, where nobody stopped to help, let's not generalise that across all people in uk or europe. I've seen countless incidents where passers by stop and help. If you worry about your society, do the right thing yourself - it helps
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There are similar stories from all countries. The "bystander effect" is a well recorded psychological phenomenon. But research also show that mere knowledge of the effect dramatically reduces its strength. ie. knowing that groups refuse to act means that individuals are more likely to react
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Old October 8th, 2010, 07:32 PM   #91
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Huge progress made!

Evening all, finally back from a rather savage 6 months.

Cannot believe how much things have changed! Pinnacle has gone from a mud pit to a core, Shard has gone from a little core to having more floors than 1 Canada Square, and Heron & Strata are pretty much finished. Heron externally anyway. Shame about Leadenhall. And what the hell happened with RS!?

Thanks everyone who has been providing updates!! You know i'd actually reccomend people to perpously not go on SSC for a month or 2- its alot more exciting, believe me!

Well, off for a pint haha. Thanks again guys, literally blown away from the changes made. Cheers
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Old October 8th, 2010, 08:39 PM   #92
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Welcome home - have a good break, you've earned it.
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Old October 8th, 2010, 09:20 PM   #93
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I did worry just a little. Seeing as you are our resident representative of the armed forces and survived the nastiness of conflict I support this thread!! :0)
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Old October 11th, 2010, 05:02 AM   #95
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Help! London School of Business and Finance

I'm getting mixed and extreme reviews about LSBF. Is it a reputable school in the UK for its postgraduate programmes, or should I just stick to the LSE's and City Uni's? Employment prospects, academic quality...

Thanks a lot.
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oh I think I'm in the wrong section... Just oblige me please.
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Old October 12th, 2010, 04:25 PM   #97
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For those in London between October 22nd and 24th
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http://www.thisisnotagateway.net/

There may even be a photo exhibition of someone named Manuel...


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Old October 12th, 2010, 05:37 PM   #98
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Thames Banks flooding

I noticed someone mentioned this in the Shard thread but did anyone else notice the rather alarming fact that the Thames was so high it was bursting its banks last weekend??

I have pics and a video of a flooded road in Greenwich if anyone is interested....

Does this usually happen? Is it something to be alarmed about? I certainly have never seen it happen before....
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Old October 12th, 2010, 08:34 PM   #99
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when I went to the Clink on south bank they said prisoners used to get routinely wiped out by the river flooding and since it was underground the threat was greater.

I got thinking about the thames flood barrier which is designed to prevent tsunamis etc incoming from the sea, but doesn't help much with high volumes of water coming from inland to the west.

I can't believe something like this is not planned for - any civil engineers out there may be able to offer insight...
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Old October 13th, 2010, 12:51 PM   #100
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when I went to the Clink on south bank they said prisoners used to get routinely wiped out by the river flooding and since it was underground the threat was greater.

I got thinking about the thames flood barrier which is designed to prevent tsunamis etc incoming from the sea, but doesn't help much with high volumes of water coming from inland to the west.

I can't believe something like this is not planned for - any civil engineers out there may be able to offer insight...
Saw the Thames burst it's banks a couple of years ago in Greenwich.

Actually, the Thames Barrier can help with reducing the risk of flooding from rain-water from the west, especially in Central London. The biggest risk is when a high tide combines with suibstantial rain run-off, when this is expected to happen the Thames Barrier is raised during low tide so while the rain run-off can build up behind the Barrier it does not combine with a high tide and therefore alleviating the flood risk.

Incidentally, the Thames Barrier was not designed to stop tsunami's, which are the displacement of water most often from earthquakes although landslides can also cause it. The Thames Barrier was designed to stop tidal/storm surges such as The North Sea Flood of 1953 which killed about 300 people in England.
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