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Old June 18th, 2011, 05:49 AM   #61
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Brazilian HSR will be 1435mm.
http://www.tavbrasil.gov.br/Tracado.asp
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Old June 18th, 2011, 05:54 AM   #62
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Old June 20th, 2011, 04:56 PM   #64
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Northern Brazil (North of Belem) must be built in 1435mm, not 1600mm.
I may be wrong, but maybe that's because there's a standard-gauge railway in Amapá state (unconnected to the rest of the country).


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All 1600mm gauge lines got proposed to convert to 1435mm.
That doesn't make any sense, especially because Brazil has only about 200km of that gauge (the one in Amapá).

There are new railways being constructed in Brazil in broad gauge (such as the North-South Railway).

I believe that the only railways with 1,435 mm will be the HSR and a few subway lines.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 02:43 PM   #65
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I may be wrong, but maybe that's because there's a standard-gauge railway in Amapá state (unconnected to the rest of the country).



That doesn't make any sense, especially because Brazil has only about 200km of that gauge (the one in Amapá).

There are new railways being constructed in Brazil in broad gauge (such as the North-South Railway).

I believe that the only railways with 1,435 mm will be the HSR and a few subway lines.
Trans-Amazon Railways should choose 1435mm not 1600mm because Amapa railway has 1435mm and rail networks in Venezuela also using 1435mm. Trans-Amazon railways are proposed.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 02:50 PM   #66
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Details of Trans-Amazon Railways
Track gauge: 1435mm
Loading gauge: 3.6m wide and 6.3m high
Platform height: 760mm above rail
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Old July 25th, 2011, 06:16 PM   #67
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Ignore this guy! nagara373 has been trolling Icelandic railways thread for quite some time and he doesn't seem to have reasonable arguments to back up his ridiculous claims. It's funny for some time,but it gets tedious pretty quickly.



Greetings from Nordic & Baltic forum.

PS - has anyone got any photos of passenger trains in Brazil? It would be cool to see Brazil's rolling stock in action
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Old July 25th, 2011, 07:41 PM   #68
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PS - has anyone got any photos of passenger trains in Brazil? It would be cool to see Brazil's rolling stock in action
There are currently only two passenger services in Brazil: Vitória - Governador Valadares - Belo Horizonte, leaving daily; and São Luís - Parauapebas, leaving every other day.
Both are run by Cia. Vale do Rio Doce mining company under contractual obligation.

Photos of the former in 2003. I believe they've changed trainset and livery since:




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Old July 27th, 2011, 09:21 PM   #69
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Trans-Amazon Railways should choose 1435mm not 1600mm because Amapa railway has 1435mm and rail networks in Venezuela also using 1435mm. Trans-Amazon railways are proposed.
In Brazil, the only reference I could find about this railway was from 2007 and connecting Manaus to Porto Velho, to the south.

So I don't know if it is realy being proposed as a standard-gauge railway, but it would make more sense if its gauge was 1,600 mm, since there is a proposed link between Porto Velho, Cuiabá, and Alto Araguaia to the rest of the country in that gauge.

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Photos of the former in 2003. I believe they've changed trainset and livery since:
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Old August 1st, 2011, 10:59 AM   #70
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In Brazil, the only reference I could find about this railway was from 2007 and connecting Manaus to Porto Velho, to the south.

So I don't know if it is realy being proposed as a standard-gauge railway, but it would make more sense if its gauge was 1,600 mm, since there is a proposed link between Porto Velho, Cuiabá, and Alto Araguaia to the rest of the country in that gauge.
Rail networks in Amazon Rainforest area must be 1435mm not 1600mm because Amapa Railway and Venezuelan Railways have 1435mm gauge. The south end of Amazon Rainforest (Belem, Alto Araguaia and more) will have breaks of gauge 1435mm/1600mm.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_9565433.htm
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Brazil should have the highest passenger coaches.

Passenger coaches for Trans-Amazon Railways:
Track gauge: 1435mm
Carbody width: 3600mm
Carbody height: 6300mm
Floor height: 1300mm
Accessible platform height: 760-1250mm above rail
Maximum speed: 160-200m/h
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Brazil should have the highest passenger coaches.

Passenger coaches for Trans-Amazon Railways:
Track gauge: 1435mm
Carbody width: 3600mm
Carbody height: 6300mm
Floor height: 1300mm
Accessible platform height: 760-1250mm above rail
Maximum speed: 160-200m/h
This is clearly your own invention, I've never read plans for such a "trans-amazon railway"
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Old August 1st, 2011, 02:09 PM   #73
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Brazil should have the highest passenger coaches.

Passenger coaches for Trans-Amazon Railways:
Track gauge: 1435mm
Carbody width: 3600mm
Carbody height: 6300mm
Floor height: 1300mm
Accessible platform height: 760-1250mm above rail
Maximum speed: 160-200m/h
Geez, I have never, ever heard or any plan on that. 6300mm carbody height??? wth?
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Rail networks in Amazon Rainforest area must be 1435mm not 1600mm because Amapa Railway and Venezuelan Railways have 1435mm gauge. The south end of Amazon Rainforest (Belem, Alto Araguaia and more) will have breaks of gauge 1435mm/1600mm.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_9565433.htm
Well, I believe it's much more interesting for Brazil to connect the Amazon region to the rest of the country without a break of gauge. Besides that, Amapá has less than 200km of rail and is too far from Venezuela to justify that.

This trans-South American railway between Argentina and Venezuela seems to be a dream too. Its perpendicular counterpart, the bi-oceanic corridor (linking Brazil to Chile), which IMO makes much more sense economically, is still struggling to see the light of day...
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Geez, I have never, ever heard or any plan on that. 6300mm carbody height??? wth?
Even giant russian two-decker is only 5,3 m high...
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Old August 12th, 2011, 02:39 PM   #76
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Well, I believe it's much more interesting for Brazil to connect the Amazon region to the rest of the country without a break of gauge. Besides that, Amapá has less than 200km of rail and is too far from Venezuela to justify that.

This trans-South American railway between Argentina and Venezuela seems to be a dream too. Its perpendicular counterpart, the bi-oceanic corridor (linking Brazil to Chile), which IMO makes much more sense economically, is still struggling to see the light of day...
Amapa railway to be converted from 1435mm to 1600mm is nonsense. Rail network in Amazon region should be 1435mm because Amapa railway is 1435mm and rail networks in Venezuela (and Peru) are 1435mm and connect without breaks of gauge with Brazilian HSR, Venezuela networks and Peru networks. Hence breaks of gauge 1435mm/1600mm should be created on the south end of Amazon Rainforest.
(1435mm for Brazilian HSR and Trans-Amazon railways, 1600mm for the rest of the Brazilian network)
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Transnordestina construction updates by Paulo Magalhães. Original post.

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how goes the high speed train construction between rio and sao paulo?
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Construction? that will not start before 2013.
Right now, the government's still trying to figure out what exactly they are gonna do.
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