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Old June 27th, 2008, 07:23 AM   #401
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Your Location says NY.
I represent all those cities. I am relocating to Nicaragua this month. I have homes in Seoul, Tokyo, NYC, Managua, and San Jose CR just FYI.
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Old June 27th, 2008, 04:27 PM   #402
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Canadian radio news speculated last night that a (quote) ''mass exodus'' of cars off of US roads will have taken place by year's end -- uh, yeah, sure....
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Old June 28th, 2008, 04:20 AM   #403
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^ Yeah, and Bush will be lovingly remembered in the future.
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Old June 28th, 2008, 07:27 AM   #404
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Actually to be honest, you'd be lucky to even have a sidewalk in suburbs.
maybe where you live
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Old June 28th, 2008, 06:12 PM   #405
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Don't American cities have Park & Rides? Most (big) European cities have got P&R's, and most of them are well-used.
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Old June 28th, 2008, 06:12 PM   #406
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Don't American cities have Park & Rides? Most (big) European cities have got P&R's, and most of them are well-used.
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Old June 28th, 2008, 07:38 PM   #407
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Don't American cities have Park & Rides? Most (big) European cities have got P&R's, and most of them are well-used.
Most Park & Rides are associated with rail-based transit which is sorely lacking in the US. Without a massive advertising/educational campaign, I do not think people would be willing to park their cars in order to board a bus. However, given the rising cost of fuel, people may begin to change their attitudes.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 06:07 AM   #408
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Most Park & Rides are associated with rail-based transit which is sorely lacking in the US. Without a massive advertising/educational campaign, I do not think people would be willing to park their cars in order to board a bus. However, given the rising cost of fuel, people may begin to change their attitudes.
There are TONS of Park and Rides in the DC area for bus use, whether they are stand alone parking lots or are connected to a Metro Station. Every day the lots get packed.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 11:45 AM   #409
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Park and rides centers for buses and sounder commuter rail here have growing out of control in Seattle metro area. They have been adding direct HOV access so buses don't have to weave across the lanes to the exit which is time consuming. They also have been expanding parking spaces, too.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 12:42 PM   #410
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All right, in Antwerp, we have P&R's at tram terminuses and P&R's for buses? Which ones do you think are the most popular? The tram-P&R's naturally.
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Old June 30th, 2008, 03:57 AM   #411
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Your Location says NY.
it's not that it's weird that you're questioning where somebody lives when they KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE, it's weird that you were looking for their location...
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 08:34 PM   #412
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This depends on where you live. Maybe on the far flung stops in DC you have to drive, but every damn person I'm friends with in Chicago just walks to the train station to take them downtown. No one drives (hell, there wouldn't be anywhere to park anyway).

There ARE some good places in the US where you can easily just walk to a station.

Chicago has 374 train stations between commuter and CTA, and they all converge on downtown, where around 700,000 are destined every weekday. I assure you there are hundreds of thousands of people here who have no problems walking to a train station and then to their destination. I'm actually surprised how many suburban people are able to walk to Metra. I assumed they all drive, but they've done a decent job putting up nice transit oriented development at a ton of stations. Not to mention anyone who works downtown and lives in the burbs would drool over the opportunity to live within walking distance of a train station. That certainly drives up the value. The city also has 155 bus routes, with a few hundred more in the burbs, which will take you to a close station to come downtown.

Our only problem is all 21 rail lines come out of the downtown core spreading out all over the urban area. It's very easy to come downtown, but very hard to go between places other than downtown. Sucks for all those people who work and live in the burbs. At least we have a very active and crowded city center that is decently served by transit.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 08:35 PM   #413
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double post, oops.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 04:37 AM   #414
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Don't American cities have Park & Rides? Most (big) European cities have got P&R's, and most of them are well-used.
Yes. Even here (Hartford), we have Park and Rides, and a good amount of them are packed at times. We don't have rail, they are for express buses. I haven't used them once though, they have awful schedules and cost too much, if compared to local rides.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 08:21 AM   #415
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it's not that it's weird that you're questioning where somebody lives when they KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE, it's weird that you were looking for their location...

His post was saying no where in America can anyone walk to a metro, I pointed out that his location said NYC. Guess it went over a lot of peoples head.

I will even quote it again and bold it just for you.

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I don't know about that. Most US cities are not biker or evne pedestrian friendly. Plus, it would take the entire day to go from one place to another since everything is so far away. Why can't they construct subway lines in each mid-scale to large cities that connects to important business, historical, and residential places like other countries do??? In the US, it is so hard to get around if you don't have a car. I live in DC and it's a pain, and NO the DC metro doesn't even stand a chance to Seoul or Tokyo's subway system. You can NEVER walk to a subway system in the USA, you need a car, park at the metro parking garage and then ride the metro...which is RIDICULOUS
Maybe he just forgot where NYC was.
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Old July 5th, 2008, 02:06 AM   #416
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This depends on where you live. Maybe on the far flung stops in DC you have to drive, but every damn person I'm friends with in Chicago just walks to the train station to take them downtown. No one drives (hell, there wouldn't be anywhere to park anyway).

There ARE some good places in the US where you can easily just walk to a station.

Chicago has 374 train stations between commuter and CTA, and they all converge on downtown, where around 700,000 are destined every weekday. I assure you there are hundreds of thousands of people here who have no problems walking to a train station and then to their destination. I'm actually surprised how many suburban people are able to walk to Metra. I assumed they all drive, but they've done a decent job putting up nice transit oriented development at a ton of stations. Not to mention anyone who works downtown and lives in the burbs would drool over the opportunity to live within walking distance of a train station. That certainly drives up the value. The city also has 155 bus routes, with a few hundred more in the burbs, which will take you to a close station to come downtown.

Our only problem is all 21 rail lines come out of the downtown core spreading out all over the urban area. It's very easy to come downtown, but very hard to go between places other than downtown. Sucks for all those people who work and live in the burbs. At least we have a very active and crowded city center that is decently served by transit.
Any plans to connect to those lines?
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Old July 8th, 2008, 04:47 AM   #417
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House approves financial help for mass transit
26 June 2008

WASHINGTON (AP) - The House approved financial help Thursday to mass transit systems facing a surge in riders because of high gas prices. But Republicans blocked Democrats from requiring oil and gas companies to drill on the millions of acres of government land and water on which they already own federal leases.

The House voted 322-98 to authorize $1.7 billion over the next two years to lower fares and expand operations as more riders flock to public transit. The transit measure, which must still be considered by the Senate, marks the first time federal money would be used to support local mass transit operating costs.

The oil lease proposal was an effort by Democrats to counter a push by congressional Republicans to lift a long-standing drilling ban on most offshore U.S. waters. Democratic leaders maintained the industry should first go after oil and natural gas in areas where they hold leases.

But the measure was defeated 223-195, short of the two-thirds vote required, with only a handful of Republicans voting for it.

Democrats proposed the failed drilling mandate and the public transit help as lawmakers struggled to respond to public anger over $4-a-gallon gasoline with the July Fourth holiday and heaviest summer driving season approaching. As the House voted, oil moved into record territory at just over $140 a barrel, signaling that gasoline prices are likely to go higher this summer.

Opening the nation's offshore oil and gas resources has dominated the congressional energy debate in recent weeks. Republicans argue the drilling moratorium, in effect since 1981 over most federal waters outside the western Gulf of Mexico, has kept companies from increasing domestic energy production.

But Democrats counter that the fenced-off waters of the Outer Continental Shelf shouldn't be opened to drilling, when leases already provided by the Interior Department in other areas, mostly the western Gulf and in Alaska, aren't being exploited.

"We believe in use it or lose it," declared Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., a key member of the Democrats' leadership.

The White House said President Bush would veto the use-it-or-lose-it legislation if it came to his desk, calling "absurd" the claim that, with today's oil prices, companies are not pursuing all the oil that they can recover economically.

Democrats maintained the existing leases owned by oil companies could produce 4.8 million barrels of oil and 44.7 trillion cubic feet of natural gas a day. But the Interior Department, which manages the federal oil and gas leasing programs, said it could not confirm those numbers.

The claim that oil companies are "sitting on" potential oil and gas by not developing leases stems from a "misunderstanding of the very lengthy regulatory process" and business considerations involved in offshore oil and gas development, C. Stephen Allred, Interior's assistant secretary for land and minerals management, wrote to lawmakers.

Meanwhile, GOP efforts to push for an end to the offshore drilling moratorium caused a partisan dustup Thursday during a House Appropriations Committee meeting.

Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., the committee's chairman, abruptly canceled the meeting after Republicans tried to force consideration of an Interior spending bill on which they wanted to tack a measure that would allow drilling 50 miles offshore on all Outer Continental Shelf waters, even those long off-limits to energy companies.

Republicans have complained that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has prevented the offshore drilling ban from coming up for a vote.

Separately, Senate Republicans proposed a revised energy package Thursday that would allow states to petition the Interior Department to lift the federal offshore drilling moratorium off their coasts, 50 miles from shore. States would get a financial windfall, 37.5 percent of the federal royalties.

The GOP proposal, which also would provide incentives for developing plug-in electric hybrid automobiles and lift a prohibition on developing oil shale in the West, has 43 GOP co-sponsors. Senate Democratic leaders, whose own energy proposals were blocked by Republicans last month, showed no interest in the GOP legislation.
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House approves financial help for mass transit
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WASHINGTON (AP) - The House approved financial help Thursday to mass transit systems facing a surge in riders because of high gas prices. But Republicans blocked Democrats from requiring oil and gas companies to drill on the millions of acres of government land and water on which they already own federal leases.

The House voted 322-98 to authorize $1.7 billion over the next two years to lower fares and expand operations as more riders flock to public transit. The transit measure, which must still be considered by the Senate, marks the first time federal money would be used to support local mass transit operating costs.

The oil lease proposal was an effort by Democrats to counter a push by congressional Republicans to lift a long-standing drilling ban on most offshore U.S. waters. Democratic leaders maintained the industry should first go after oil and natural gas in areas where they hold leases.

But the measure was defeated 223-195, short of the two-thirds vote required, with only a handful of Republicans voting for it.

Democrats proposed the failed drilling mandate and the public transit help as lawmakers struggled to respond to public anger over $4-a-gallon gasoline with the July Fourth holiday and heaviest summer driving season approaching. As the House voted, oil moved into record territory at just over $140 a barrel, signaling that gasoline prices are likely to go higher this summer.

Opening the nation's offshore oil and gas resources has dominated the congressional energy debate in recent weeks. Republicans argue the drilling moratorium, in effect since 1981 over most federal waters outside the western Gulf of Mexico, has kept companies from increasing domestic energy production.

But Democrats counter that the fenced-off waters of the Outer Continental Shelf shouldn't be opened to drilling, when leases already provided by the Interior Department in other areas, mostly the western Gulf and in Alaska, aren't being exploited.

"We believe in use it or lose it," declared Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., a key member of the Democrats' leadership.

The White House said President Bush would veto the use-it-or-lose-it legislation if it came to his desk, calling "absurd" the claim that, with today's oil prices, companies are not pursuing all the oil that they can recover economically.

Democrats maintained the existing leases owned by oil companies could produce 4.8 million barrels of oil and 44.7 trillion cubic feet of natural gas a day. But the Interior Department, which manages the federal oil and gas leasing programs, said it could not confirm those numbers.

The claim that oil companies are "sitting on" potential oil and gas by not developing leases stems from a "misunderstanding of the very lengthy regulatory process" and business considerations involved in offshore oil and gas development, C. Stephen Allred, Interior's assistant secretary for land and minerals management, wrote to lawmakers.

Meanwhile, GOP efforts to push for an end to the offshore drilling moratorium caused a partisan dustup Thursday during a House Appropriations Committee meeting.

Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., the committee's chairman, abruptly canceled the meeting after Republicans tried to force consideration of an Interior spending bill on which they wanted to tack a measure that would allow drilling 50 miles offshore on all Outer Continental Shelf waters, even those long off-limits to energy companies.

Republicans have complained that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has prevented the offshore drilling ban from coming up for a vote.

Separately, Senate Republicans proposed a revised energy package Thursday that would allow states to petition the Interior Department to lift the federal offshore drilling moratorium off their coasts, 50 miles from shore. States would get a financial windfall, 37.5 percent of the federal royalties.

The GOP proposal, which also would provide incentives for developing plug-in electric hybrid automobiles and lift a prohibition on developing oil shale in the West, has 43 GOP co-sponsors. Senate Democratic leaders, whose own energy proposals were blocked by Republicans last month, showed no interest in the GOP legislation.
Watch all that money do to the middle of no where states and NYC not get a dime. Because everything in NYC is pork barrel spending.
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Old July 8th, 2008, 09:38 PM   #419
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It's great to see the US pushing the use of Mass Transit.
A couple months ago, this is still what you could read in the local press:
http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache...20080612a.html
(not sure if it was a joke or serious though).
Thankfully times are changing and everybody is catching on. Last time I was there, carpooling was also getting extremely popular.
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Old July 8th, 2008, 09:59 PM   #420
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Looks legit, since the source is extremely apologetic to all Republicans.
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