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Old September 2nd, 2008, 08:47 PM   #481
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We all know what we need to do, it takes just a little bit of effort, but not that much.

The first thing is to start writing letters to congress members in favor of greater funding of public transit. It's incredible, because even the most fiscally conservative people I know are in favor of greater coverage, and yet, politicians can say with a straight face that their constituents don't want the money to be spent. Make it obvious that they are incorrect in this analysis.

The second thing is to start contributing to public transit advocacy groups. Sure, a few dollars isn't going to change the world, but a few thousand people giving a few dollars certainly starts to grease the gears of political action. Interest groups are what drives American policy nowadays; it's up to us to take advantage of this.

Finally, we need to remind our neighbors who have cut back on driving how much money they are saving by doing this, and help prevent people from falling back into bad habits. Let's face it, we're a big country, and no matter what any mandate says, 300 million people are going to do 300 million different things. Social acceptability is a much more powerful force than law.

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Old September 2nd, 2008, 09:54 PM   #482
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It's hard because the same oil prices that are making more people choose public transit are also costing the transit agencies millions more in fuel costs for buses. The country is kinda frozen right now from fear of economic problems, and governments don't have extra cash to give transit agencies.

I think it will get a lot better once things have time to get themselves worked out, but for right now it's all happening within the past year or so, and things are a mess with the public transit. At least in Chicago where there's no CURRENT funding; yet there are currently thousands of extra riders trying to cram on trains/buses. Today was a total mess.
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Old September 4th, 2008, 08:14 AM   #483
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Funding needed for surge in transit use
High Gas Prices; Canada at 'tipping point': municipalities

2 September 2008
National Post

OTTAWA - Gasoline prices are driving Canadians to public transit, but the nation's mayors and transit authorities warn that their overloaded buses and subways aren't able to meet this surging demand.

Without busloads of federal cash to expand public transit, Canada will lose this "once-in-a-generation" chance to get its citizens out of inefficient cars and into public transportation, say the Federation of Canadian Municipalities (FCM) and Canadian Urban Transit Association.

The two groups handed out results yesterday of a survey showing 20% of city-dwelling Canadians who now drive a car claim they want to switch to the bus, subway, streetcar and light rail.

Another 23% say they will drive less and 13% claim they're going to start cycling or walking.

"The country has reached a tipping point," said Jean Perrault, president of the FCM. "Either we can take action to protect citizens from high gas prices and move people from cars to transit, or we can do nothing, leaving Canadians at the mercy of the gas pump."

People are even worried they can't travel from home to work, Mr. Perrault said.

The price of fuel is a "bread-and-butter" issue, yet federal leaders aren't addressing it as Canadians approach an election, he said.

"Canadians are now more concerned by the rising price of gas than they are by their rent or mortgage payments," or by taxes, he added, citing the survey from Strategic Counsel.

The telephone survey polled 1,100 adult Canadians in mid-August.

Results of a poll this size are considered accurate plus or minus 2.95 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

Rural residents were not polled.

"This is an opportunity to provide Canadian families with relief and to reduce traffic gridlock," the survey summary said.

"It is an opportunity to move Canadians toward a more sustainable mode of transportation," with fewer greenhouse gas emissions.

"Our transit systems can't cope with the surge in demand that is coming with higher gas prices," the survey report said.

"Most of our transit systems already are beyond capacity during peak hours," it said.

"This means that this market-drive green shift is going to stall unless there is some federal leadership."

"We're seeing all-time records in transit ridership already, at 1.8 billion trips a year," said Steve New, who chairs the Canadian Urban Transit Association.
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Old September 4th, 2008, 11:53 AM   #484
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It's hard because the same oil prices that are making more people choose public transit are also costing the transit agencies millions more in fuel costs for buses.
PT is effected but less than individual traffic. Thats its advantage.
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Old September 4th, 2008, 02:47 PM   #485
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Well .. roll out the natural gas buses!
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Old September 4th, 2008, 03:03 PM   #486
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The CTA, which provides an average of 1.7 million rides a day and is already operating at full capacity during rush periods, is bracing for up to 200,000 additional riders each weekday, transit officials said.
That's not really that high by international standards when you think about the population of Chicago and the number of rail lines. Considering cities much smaller than Chicago cope with far greater passenger numbers I can't help but feel this article is a bit of hyperbole. London transports more people on the tube alone than Chicago and it's a similar size. Even Munich manages to transport 873.7 million passengers per year (284.7 million S-bahn, 166 million bus, 336 million U-bahn and 87 million tram) despite the city being much smaller. This compared to the 620.5 million per year in Chicago and you have to wonder how the CTA could be running near capacity. Perhaps someone from Chicago can explain?
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I'm not an expert on Chicago, but the L system is in dire need of an upgrade. It's basically one giant loop that all the lines feed into, which effectively limits the maximum frequencies that can be achieved. I believe that the cars and platforms are also smaller than your typical modern system, so there's actually less capacity with each train. Demand is also extremely peaked... There's a lot of riders during the commute periods, but at other times, passenger demand is much lower.
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MBTA boosts subway, bus service
4 September 2008

BOSTON (AP) - The MBTA is responding to seven consecutive months of increased ridership by adding subway cars and buses to some routes.

The Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority, which attributes the surge in people taking public transportation to increased gas prices, says ridership jumped 10 percent in July compared to July 2007. About 34.7 million people took the subway, commuter rail and buses in July, the single best month for MBTA ridership in at least a decade.

The agency is increasing rush hour capacity on the subway's Red, Green and Blue lines to make commutes less crowded and more comfortable.

The T is also running additional buses on some lines, especially those serving city neighborhoods.

General Manager Daniel Grabauskas says the changes will improve quality and reliability.
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That's not really that high by international standards when you think about the population of Chicago and the number of rail lines. Considering cities much smaller than Chicago cope with far greater passenger numbers I can't help but feel this article is a bit of hyperbole. London transports more people on the tube alone than Chicago and it's a similar size. Even Munich manages to transport 873.7 million passengers per year (284.7 million S-bahn, 166 million bus, 336 million U-bahn and 87 million tram) despite the city being much smaller. This compared to the 620.5 million per year in Chicago and you have to wonder how the CTA could be running near capacity. Perhaps someone from Chicago can explain?
Also there's probably a dire shortage of rolling stock, and no money there to buy more.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 10:32 PM   #490
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That's not really that high by international standards when you think about the population of Chicago and the number of rail lines. Considering cities much smaller than Chicago cope with far greater passenger numbers I can't help but feel this article is a bit of hyperbole. London transports more people on the tube alone than Chicago and it's a similar size. Even Munich manages to transport 873.7 million passengers per year (284.7 million S-bahn, 166 million bus, 336 million U-bahn and 87 million tram) despite the city being much smaller. This compared to the 620.5 million per year in Chicago and you have to wonder how the CTA could be running near capacity. Perhaps someone from Chicago can explain?
Well it never said it was a huge amount, it's just that there's no current funding for new buses and trains, and at rush periods trains are operating at full capacity and with as little headways as possible under our current singnaling restraints.

I found in London and Europe many systems seem to be quite busy at all hours. In the US things are VERY busy at rush hours, and really die down during the middle of the day and at evening hours. For instance on the Brown Line you have 25-50% full trains with 4 cars running every 8 minutes during the day. During rush periods you have completely at capacity 8 car trains running every 2 minutes, and sometimes I still have to wait for 3-4 trains to pass before I can cram on one. As opposed to Europe, in Chicago ALL people tend to be going in the same direction at rush hours (downtown and back).

If just one little thing happens that delays a train, it snowballs into this very quickly:



The article is saying they're worried about another 200,000 riders, or over 10% increase coming when they've got the full fleet out there, and it's already at capacity. There's no other equiptment, and nowhere for these riders to go but try and squeeze even more. The point is, there needs to be a lot more funding.

Even on the buses there's just no extra equiptment, and things are already full. I take a bus that comes every 2 minutes during rush periods, and is an oversized bus, but once we reach the stops closer to where the train pulls onto the motorway into the city center, there are normally huge crowds of people who can't get on any of the buses because they're completely full by the time they make it that far.
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Transit ridership surges nationally in 2nd quarter
9 September 2008

WASHINGTON (AP) - The nation's public transportation systems logged a 5.2 percent jump in ridership in the second quarter.

According to the Washington-based American Public Transportation Association, riders made a total of 2.8 billion trips on the nation's subways, buses, commuter railroads and light-rail systems from April to June. That's up from 2.7 billion in the same period last year.

The surge in riders is straining many transit systems struggling just to maintain the service they already offer, let alone expanding service. A survey conducted by the association shows many systems are struggling just to maintain the service they already offer because of their own rising fuel costs.
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Old September 9th, 2008, 01:01 PM   #492
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Chicago public ridership surges, but so do losses as belt-tightening measures announced
9 September 2008

CHICAGO (AP) - The nation's second-largest transit system announced $40 million in belt-tightening measures, despite a more than 5 percent ridership surge in 2008 compared to last year.

The perennially cash-strapped Chicago Transit Authority said Monday the moves, which include eliminating 80 administrative jobs, reducing worker overtime and deferring non-critical spending, are necessary to counteract soaring energy and other costs.

The authority, which operates more than 250 miles of subway, as well as a bus network, stopped short of threatening immediate fare increases. But that possibility remains "on the table" for 2009, CTA president Ron Huberman said.

"It has been our goal to avoid budget actions that would impact the riding public, and that is why we continue to look internally for ways to tighten our belt," he said.

While high gas prices have prompted commuters to take subways and buses more often -- Chicago Transit Authority ridership was up nearly 10 percent in August compared to the previous year -- fuel and other energy costs are expected to be around $37 million higher this year than last, straining the CTA's 2008 budget, the agency said.

The CTA also blamed its latest financial woes on Gov. Rod Blagojevich's veto of a reduced-fare subsidy in July, which the CTA says will cost it $32 million a year; it says a free-ride program for senior citizens will cost it at least $20 million this year.

Worsening matters overall, the CTA said, is that a weakening economy means tax proceeds earmarked for mass transit are coming in at lower-than-projected levels.

The CTA didn't offer a projected 2008 debt. But without cuts, it likely would run into the tens of millions of dollars.

Legislative action in January did not address infrastructure needs of Chicago's ailing, century-old networks, which transportation officials say will require billions of dollars in improvements over the coming decade.

A message seeking comment from the governor's office Monday was not immediately returned.
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Buffalo leads U. S. in increased rail use
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Sep. 12--Buffalo commuters are leading the nation when it comes to riding light rail to beat the high cost of driving.

Metro Rail ridership skyrocketed 45.9 percent in the second quarter of this year compared with 2007, according to a survey released Tuesday by the American Public Transportation Association.

During the April-through- June period, nearly 1.8 million passengers rode Metro Rail, up from 1.2 million in the prior year's quarter.

"The numbers speak for themselves. They are a validation for what Metro Rail can and does provide for people who use it," said Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority spokesman C. Douglas Hartmayer.

"Whether you're going to work, going downtown for entertainment or business, or attending a special event, it's a viable, convenient option," Hartmayer added.

Nationwide, the survey tallied an overall 5.2 percent jump in public transportation use for the second quarter, with light rail showing the greatest hike, up 12.3 percent nationwide.

While Buffalo's 6.2-mile-long rail line showed the largest gain, three other cities also saw passenger counts grow by more than 20 percent. Record light rail traffic increases also were recorded in Philadelphia (34.9 percent), Kenosha, Wis., (26.9 percent) and Sacramento, Calif., (26.3 percent).

The NFTA also beat the 5.1 percent national average in bus passenger increases, charting a 5.24 percent rise.
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Well it never said it was a huge amount, it's just that there's no current funding for new buses and trains, and at rush periods trains are operating at full capacity and with as little headways as possible under our current singnaling restraints.

I found in London and Europe many systems seem to be quite busy at all hours. In the US things are VERY busy at rush hours, and really die down during the middle of the day and at evening hours. For instance on the Brown Line you have 25-50% full trains with 4 cars running every 8 minutes during the day. During rush periods you have completely at capacity 8 car trains running every 2 minutes, and sometimes I still have to wait for 3-4 trains to pass before I can cram on one. As opposed to Europe, in Chicago ALL people tend to be going in the same direction at rush hours (downtown and back).

If just one little thing happens that delays a train, it snowballs into this very quickly:



The article is saying they're worried about another 200,000 riders, or over 10% increase coming when they've got the full fleet out there, and it's already at capacity. There's no other equiptment, and nowhere for these riders to go but try and squeeze even more. The point is, there needs to be a lot more funding.

Even on the buses there's just no extra equiptment, and things are already full. I take a bus that comes every 2 minutes during rush periods, and is an oversized bus, but once we reach the stops closer to where the train pulls onto the motorway into the city center, there are normally huge crowds of people who can't get on any of the buses because they're completely full by the time they make it that far.
Interesting, that's pretty much the norm in many of the bigger US cities. BTW, speaking of capacity, have the platform extension on he CTA Ravenswood rapid transit line (NW Side) been completed?
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Boston-area transit system rolls out 6-car trains
14 September 2008

REVERE, Mass. (AP) - With high gas prices driving more and more commuters out of their cars and into public transportation, the MBTA is adding capacity by replacing 4-car trains on the Blue Line with 6-car trains.

The first of the longer trains is scheduled to leave Monday morning from Wonderland Station in Revere. Officials say all of the 4-car trains on the Blue Line will be replaced by 6-car trains over the coming months.

By early 2009, the Boston-area transit system expects to have 84 subway cars operating during rush hour, compared to 56 prior to the introduction of 6-car trains.

The T says overall ridership has increased for seven consecutive months. Average weekday ridership on the Blue Line was 66,933 in July, up from 53,424 last December.
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The Buffalo News

Sep. 12--Buffalo commuters are leading the nation when it comes to riding light rail to beat the high cost of driving.

Metro Rail ridership skyrocketed 45.9 percent in the second quarter of this year compared with 2007, according to a survey released Tuesday by the American Public Transportation Association.

During the April-through- June period, nearly 1.8 million passengers rode Metro Rail, up from 1.2 million in the prior year's quarter.

"The numbers speak for themselves. They are a validation for what Metro Rail can and does provide for people who use it," said Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority spokesman C. Douglas Hartmayer.

"Whether you're going to work, going downtown for entertainment or business, or attending a special event, it's a viable, convenient option," Hartmayer added.

Nationwide, the survey tallied an overall 5.2 percent jump in public transportation use for the second quarter, with light rail showing the greatest hike, up 12.3 percent nationwide.

While Buffalo's 6.2-mile-long rail line showed the largest gain, three other cities also saw passenger counts grow by more than 20 percent. Record light rail traffic increases also were recorded in Philadelphia (34.9 percent), Kenosha, Wis., (26.9 percent) and Sacramento, Calif., (26.3 percent).

The NFTA also beat the 5.1 percent national average in bus passenger increases, charting a 5.24 percent rise.

According to the American Public Transportation Authority, from April to June 2008 Atlanta's MARTA transit system saw the largest ridership increase vs. same period last year among all heavy rail systems nationwide.

The numbers: 21.5 million vs. 18.6 million, or a 15.6% increase.
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High gas prices have Philadelphia regional rail struggling to meet demand
16 September 2008

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Rising gasoline prices have trains so crowded that Philadelphia's regional rail conductors sometimes can't collect all the tickets.

Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority rail operations have the highest ridership in 25 years, with passengers standing on many rush-hour trains. The line is buying more rail cars, taking cars out of mothballs and making schedule changes to try to adapt. Parked cars are filling the lots at SEPTA rail stations, and overflowing along nearby roads.

Meanwhile, Sen. Arlen Specter says he's pushing for rail service connecting Philadelphia to Reading. The latest proposal is to extend the existing Philadelphia-to-Norristown service to make it reach Reading.
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The federal government needs to step in and provide funding for capital improvements to the nation's mass transit system.
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