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View Poll Results: The Best Skyline in the World for 2010 is
Kuala Lumpar 41 5.44%
Hong Kong 155 20.56%
Chicago 44 5.84%
Singapore 32 4.24%
Shanghai 34 4.51%
Tokyo 12 1.59%
New York 168 22.28%
Frankfurt 11 1.46%
Dubai 37 4.91%
Seoul 8 1.06%
Seattle 10 1.33%
Guangzhou 4 0.53%
Shenzhen 8 1.06%
Dallas 3 0.40%
Pittsburgh 5 0.66%
Sao Paolo 34 4.51%
Paris 16 2.12%
Toronto 21 2.79%
Sydney 20 2.65%
Los Angeles 1 0.13%
San Francisco 3 0.40%
Melbourne 11 1.46%
Houston 0 0%
London 29 3.85%
Detroit 3 0.40%
Boston 1 0.13%
Montreal 3 0.40%
Moscow 23 3.05%
Atlanta 0 0%
Istanbul 17 2.25%
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Old December 8th, 2010, 12:49 PM   #201
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If we're talking about numbers (and not aesthetics) NYC, strangely, isn't in the running any more.

HK has more highrises (100m), skyscrapers (150m), tall-skyscrapers (200), and supertalls (300m) than NYC in every category.

However Shanghai has more supertalls and possibly highrises (c.4000 and counting), but less skyscrapers than HK. Cumulatively, with the presence of skyscrapers, it counts higher.

Sao Paulo has more highrises period, than either of those, by far - and can count cumulatively as highest - but only a dozen skyscrapers and no supertalls due to the airport (due to be moved so watch this space).

Dubai has the most supertalls than anywhere, and the world's tallest building, but less skyscrapers and highrises.


In short, those 4 cities are title holders in one form or other, its just how you measure it. NYC, though its second place in terms of skyscrapers, is not a title holder in any category. Even as an 'all-rounder' in all categories it's pipped by HK, and in cumulative terms, Shanghai.

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Old December 8th, 2010, 01:02 PM   #202
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Seoul is another strange non-contender: cumulatively it beats every other city (except perhaps Sao Paulo,
depending on where you would measure 'highrise' from) but since it holds none of the titles it's not in the running
- despite being the worlds second largest city housing 26 million in mostly highrise accomodation.

A skyline like this, though much bigger than almost anywhere is excluded purely due to the measuring criteria:


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Old December 8th, 2010, 01:14 PM   #203
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From Shyaman's epic 63 page (and counting) photo thread:











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Old December 8th, 2010, 01:18 PM   #204
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...and of course the same applies to Sao Paulo:











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Old December 8th, 2010, 01:23 PM   #205
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Hong Kong has the best skyline in the world
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Old December 8th, 2010, 01:38 PM   #206
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Hong Kong is on the Top of the list
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Old December 8th, 2010, 01:48 PM   #207
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HK has more highrises (100m) than NYC
yes.

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HK has more skyscrapers (150m)than NYC
no.

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HK has more tall-skyscrapers (200)m than NYC
yes.

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HK has more supertalls (300m) than NYC
yes.

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However Shanghai has more supertalls and possibly highrises (c.4000 and counting) than HK
no.

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However Shanghai has less skyscrapers than HK
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Dubai has the most supertalls than anywhere, and the world's tallest building, but less skyscrapers and highrises.
yes.

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NYC, though its second place in terms of skyscrapers, is not a title holder in any category.
no.

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Even as an 'all-rounder' in all categories it's [NY] pipped by HK, and in cumulative terms, Shanghai.
no, not by shanghai.


hi spliff,

some of your statements are true, some are not. here are the facts:

1) HONG KONG:
- towers exceeding 500ft: (~150m): 250
- towers exceeding 600ft: 86
- towers exceeding 656ft: (200m): 54
- towers exceeding 1000ft: (~300m): 6

2) SHANGHAI:
- towers exceeding 500ft (~150m): 110
- towers exceeding 600ft: 62
- towers exceeding 656ft (200m): 43
- towers exceeding 1000ft (~300m): 3

3) NEW YORK:
- towers exceeding 500ft (~150m): 210
- towers exceeding 600ft: 91
- towers exceeding 656ft (200m): 52
- towers exceeding 1000ft (~300m): 4

towers under construction exceeding 200m:
1) HK: 0
2) SH: 5
3) NY: 5

HK beats them all except NY in the 600ft+ category and dubai in the supertall category (and in the skyscraper category; dubai has 56 towers over 200m). i do believe that shanghai has probably the most 100m+ towers, but it still needs to build more skyscrapers (200m+) to catch up with HK and NY.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 02:04 PM   #208
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^yah, I said that... reread my post. HK beats NYC in every category, Shanghai beats them in highrises and supertalls (but not skyscrapers).
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Old December 8th, 2010, 02:22 PM   #209
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HK beats NY in every category except the 600ft+ one. and shanghai has 3 supertalls, whereas HK has 6 and NY 4. one could argue that the NYTT shouldn't be a supertall, but that's the same with the shimao building. the only thing where shanghai beats NY is when you count the number of highrises (100m+).
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when did I ever say 600ft (and since when has anyone measured it from 600ft???). The criteria are 100, 150, 200 and 300m. Not 183m.

ok on the supertalls ( I thought Wheelock Square was, but just checked and its 2m off), but Shanghai, from the sheer number of highrises compared to NYC or HK puts it cumulatively ahead of both, which was my point.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 03:33 PM   #211
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no.
??? YES. Even with your stats, HK= 250, NYC=210
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??? YES. Even with your stats, HK= 250, NYC=210
my bad (), of course HK beats NY in the 150m+ category.

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when did I ever say 600ft (and since when has anyone measured it from 600ft???). The criteria are 100, 150, 200 and 300m. Not 183m.
yeah i know lol, i just wanted to show that sometimes it depends where you measure from. also, i guess 100m+ has become pretty irrelevant today as many cities (especially asian ones) build them.

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ok on the supertalls ( I thought Wheelock Square was, but just checked and its 2m off), but Shanghai, from the sheer number of highrises compared to NYC or HK puts it cumulatively ahead of both, which was my point.
i always wanted to know the (exact) numbers of highrises in shanghai, there has to be an official website stating some facts. i do believe that shanghai has surpassed HK (~ 8000 highrises) in that matter.

PS: i'm a bit worried about my city. i mean if shanghai continues to build skyscrapers and supertalls on such a pace, HK could be in danger as the #1 skyline (my opinion) in a couple of years.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 06:51 PM   #214
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8000 highrises in HK - wow, where is the data from? If that is the case then HK has more than Shanghai, which is about 4000. Either it's different criteria or HK is twice as highrise than SH, but looking from pics it doesnt seem so?


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Bangkok should've been on option on the list! It has a better/larger/eclectic skyline that 60% of the cities listed as options.
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8000 highrises in HK - wow, where is the data from? If that is the case then HK has more than Shanghai, which is about 4000. Either it's different criteria or HK is twice as highrise than SH, but looking from pics it doesnt seem so?
hmm...
1. i thought the 4000 figure for shanghai is already dated!?
2. it could be the case of a different criteria. HK is a sea of highrises, but it's not 2x shanghai, that's for sure:

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3. the number is an estimate, the official one (from 2008 by emporis) is 7683. though emporis is famous for stating wrong figures about asian cities, i think it's "quite" accurate for HK.
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that first pic... HK is just stellar, it really is such a wonderful setting to park a city
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If we're talking about numbers (and not aesthetics) NYC, strangely, isn't in the running any more.

HK has more highrises (100m), skyscrapers (150m), tall-skyscrapers (200), and supertalls (300m) than NYC in every category.

However Shanghai has more supertalls and possibly highrises (c.4000 and counting), but less skyscrapers than HK. Cumulatively, with the presence of skyscrapers, it counts higher.

Sao Paulo has more highrises period, than either of those, by far - and can count cumulatively as highest - but only a dozen skyscrapers and no supertalls due to the airport (due to be moved so watch this space).

Dubai has the most supertalls than anywhere, and the world's tallest building, but less skyscrapers and highrises.


In short, those 4 cities are title holders in one form or other, its just how you measure it. NYC, though its second place in terms of skyscrapers, is not a title holder in any category. Even as an 'all-rounder' in all categories it's pipped by HK, and in cumulative terms, Shanghai.
The thread title is "World's Best Skyline" not "Most Skyscrapers" so if you'd like to start a thread where people simply post tall building counts to prove their claims then go ahead.
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The thread title is "World's Best Skyline" not "Most Skyscrapers" so if you'd like to start a thread where people simply post tall building counts to prove their claims then go ahead.
True- when you rank skylines, you shouldn't count the number of towers but look at the entire skyline and try to think if skyline X is better than skyline Y.

Despite Shanghai has a huge amount of skyscrapers, its skyline, in my opinion- isn't even in the top 3. Those 2 overused pictures are the best proof- it's almost impossible to catch even a fraction of Shanghai's skyline in a single picture, that's why Shanghai's skyline is basically Podung and that's all- there are barely any pictures of the city's other areas. And I think that Hong-Kong, New-York, Chicago easily beat Podung's skyline alone.
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True- when you rank skylines, you shouldn't count the number of towers but look at the entire skyline and try to think if skyline X is better than skyline Y.

Despite Shanghai has a huge amount of skyscrapers, its skyline, in my opinion- isn't even in the top 3. Those 2 overused pictures are the best proof- it's almost impossible to catch even a fraction of Shanghai's skyline in a single picture, that's why Shanghai's skyline is basically Podung and that's all- there are barely any pictures of the city's other areas. And I think that Hong-Kong, New-York, Chicago easily beat Podung's skyline alone.
Yep, the votes say it all: Quality > Quantity
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