Who should host the 2023 Rugby World Cup?

[ArnageWRC]

Rugby, like cricket, needs new markets, so holding it in one of the established countries is dumb. Argentina seems the most sensible.

[carnifex2005]

As much as I think that Canada could easily successfully host a RWC, Argentina should be the first country in the Americas to host one.

[GanEden]

WHERE'S THE WHO CARES OPTION? Why are we so concerned about a two bit bore-a-thon of a sport that will always live in the HUGE shadow of soccer????

[GanEden]

Originally Posted by likasz

Argentina, or Italy.

But I think that rugby union will be dead after OG 2016.


Rugby7s is coming!

You could be right, unless they merge with Rugby League?

[RobH]

Originally Posted by GanEden

WHERE'S THE WHO CARES OPTION? Why are we so concerned about a two bit bore-a-thon of a sport that will always live in the HUGE shadow of soccer????

Did the ever-so-complicated thread title confuse confuse you?

If you don't care don't come into the thread. Simples.

[Marsupalami]

Originally Posted by RobH

Did the ever-so-complicated thread title confuse confuse you?

If you don't care don't come into the thread. Simples.

I agree - Rugby Union IS huge - its a collosal sport - where real men make impressive amounts of calculated risks and tactical brilliance mixed with brute force - no time for ninnies in this format.

South Africa would host a damn good RWC in my opinion. We have the fans like few other places, and we have the stadia too.

[chibimatty]

Originally Posted by GanEden

WHERE'S THE WHO CARES OPTION? Why are we so concerned about a two bit bore-a-thon of a sport that will always live in the HUGE shadow of soccer????

Originally Posted by RobH

Did the ever-so-complicated thread title confuse confuse you?

If you don't care don't come into the thread. Simples.

Now now, Rob, the poor guy's a soccer fan, he probably DID have trouble reading the thread title. They're not known for their education.

[bicho84]

how about a Georgia or Romania? Rugby growing rapidli in both countries.

[lwa]

Originally Posted by bicho84

how about a Georgia or Romania? Rugby growing rapidli in both countries.

As much as I would like to see the RWC going to an emerging nation, there are 2 big stumbling blocks with that idea.

Firstly, neither country really has the infrastructure required to host a RWC. (time for that to change though, I suppose)

and Secondly, it would be a big risk. I have no doubt about Gerogia's passion for their national side (60,000 at a ENC match confirms that), but is there the interest to bring in the numbers France did in 2007, or England will in 2015? Bear in mind the IRB are already taking a similar risk 4 years earlier with Japan - I can't see another country outside the top 10 hosting it until 2027 at the earliest (aside from maybe a couple of games)

The above is especially true when there are relativly safe options while still taking the tournament outside the traditional powerhouses (Italy for example - growing support among Italians, and easy to get to for the other 6 Nations countries)


(And I would argue Russia is a better bet for an eastern europe RWC anyway)

[CharlieP]

Originally Posted by chibimatty

Now now, Rob, the poor guy's a soccer fan, he probably DID have trouble reading the thread title. They're not known for their education.

He's actually a rugby league troll.

[TEBC]

SA for 2023 and Argentina for 2027

[Danis]

Originally Posted by JimB

I very much doubt that anything is decided on the basis of hemisphere.

More than likely that, after Japan, the RWC will return to Europe. That's where rugby has its largest supporter base. So, if the IRB are keen to take the tournament to a new host, Italy would be the obvious choice.

Otherwise, Argentina would be a good call. Best rugby playing nation never to have hosted the World Cup.

Largest supporter base? You are hugely underestimating the SANZAR nations, Europe will never rival the likes of New Zealand and South Africa when it comes to support. The utterly boring game of football has and will probably always be the top priority of the European nations.Where in South Africa for instance some Currie Cup games (Domestic competition) attract more than 48000 supporters not even mentioning tri-nations encounters .

[JYDA]

Originally Posted by Danis

Largest supporter base? You are hugely underestimating the SANZAR nations, Europe will never rival the likes of New Zealand and South Africa when it comes to support. The utterly boring game of football has and will probably always be the top priority of the European nations.Where in South Africa for instance some Currie Cup games (Domestic competition) attract more than 48000 supporters not even mentioning tri-nations encounters .

I'm pretty sure "largest supporter base" was in reference to the high concentration of world cup participants in the region. A lot of fanbases can make a day trip to see a match at a european world cup as opposed to having to plan a vacation around visiting a southern hemisphere world cup.

[krudmonk]

A bit radical, but how about Romania and Georgia hold group and knockout matches up to the final at the new Olympic stadium in Sochi (Russia)? That hits three emerging nations in one tournament.

[Walbanger]

Rugby Union certainly has to start playing more "exhibition" internationals in potential or under utilised markets like Australia and New Zealand's recent matches in Hong Kong and Tokyo. Something like England vs Ireland in Boston or England vs France in Montreal or New Orleans.

[Marsupalami]

thats a great idea Wallbanger!!
PS - South Africa should host the damn thing in 2023 - We really REALLY have the stadiums to generate more cash then anywhere else on earth, and the passionate fans to put bums in seat!!

[Walbanger]

I'm happy for Australia to for go any notion of host rotation in favour of an new frontier.

[flierfy]

Originally Posted by Danis

Largest supporter base? You are hugely underestimating the SANZAR nations, Europe will never rival the likes of New Zealand and South Africa when it comes to support. The utterly boring game of football has and will probably always be the top priority of the European nations.Where in South Africa for instance some Currie Cup games (Domestic competition) attract more than 48000 supporters not even mentioning tri-nations encounters .

Just that Rugby isn't even the most popular game in South Africa. And the other two tri-nations are virtually unpopulated. Hence the poor attendance figures at this years World Cup.

If you want to draw large crowds you have to go where there is both, lots of people and enthusiasm for the game. In terms of Rugby there is no better place than western Europe.

[KiwiRob]

Poor attendance figurers, they sold out most games, even the ones with minnows playing minnows!!!

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/destina...d=2054827.html

The 2010 Football World Cup in SA was plagued by poor attendances, many stadiums had 10,000 or more unsold seats. Considering the size of the venues played in 49,000 per game is pretty poor. Whereas in NZ for the current Wolrd Cup 768,000 people have been to 28 matches with 20 matches to go, an average of 27,000 is pretty good, nearly 1.4 million bums on seats for the tournament is pretty good, that's nearly 1/3 of NZ's population, SA didn't even come close to 10% in 2010.

[Mo Rush]

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

Poor attendance figurers, they sold out most games, even the ones with minnows playing minnows!!!

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/destina...d=2054827.html

The 2010 Football World Cup in SA was plagued by poor attendances, many stadiums had 10,000 or more unsold seats. Considering the size of the venues played in 49,000 per game is pretty poor. Whereas in NZ for the current Wolrd Cup 768,000 people have been to 28 matches with 20 matches to go, an average of 27,000 is pretty good, nearly 1.4 million bums on seats for the tournament is pretty good, that's nearly 1/3 of NZ's population, SA didn't even come close to 10% in 2010.

I'm missing your point. Surely you're not that ignorant. Or at least you haven't previously appeared to be.