Bay Area Sports Centre - Page 2

metropolismayor · June 12th, 2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by arturo

There's a Bay Area in Tampa, Chesepeake and SoCal at least. And as I've argued with many friends, Redondo Beach is in SoCals South Bay as well. Unless the A's are also trying to woo East Coast and Florida fans, I'd stick with a city name. (Though I'd be cool with them being called the California Athletics)

Speaking of bays and regionalism. I seemed to recall that someone high up suggested SF's failed Olympic bid be more appropriately pitched as "San Francisco Bay" as that would be more inclusive of the enitre region. I think, as it turned out, only about 25% of events wouldve taken place in SF with as least as many happening in SJ. In that case, I think the inclusion of "Bay" wouldve been better.

metropolismayor · June 12th, 2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by arturo

There's a Bay Area in Tampa, Chesepeake and SoCal at least. And as I've argued with many friends, Redondo Beach is in SoCals South Bay as well. Unless the A's are also trying to woo East Coast and Florida fans, I'd stick with a city name. (Though I'd be cool with them being called the California Athletics)

Speaking of bays and regionalism. I seemed to recall that someone high up suggested SF's failed Olympic bid be more appropriately pitched as "San Francisco Bay" as that would be more inclusive of the enitre region. I think, as it turned out, only about 25% of events wouldve taken place in SF with as least as many happening in SJ. In that case, I think the inclusion of "Bay" would've been better. Dont know if that plan wouldve helped or not, but SF officials didnt want to change the bid. I suspect it couldnt have hurt as we have a very unique region, both nationally and internationally. In the end, that bid went down in flames.

krudmonk · June 15th, 2007, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by edsg25

The only possible name in the whole region that could have equal or greater status would be San Francisco.

I doubt there are as many people who would be turned off by "Bay Area" as there are who would be by "San Francisco." They are not on the same level in terms of appeal.

derek5 · June 18th, 2007, 06:46 AM

The name Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim is the worst sports name I have ever heard. Now this? San Jose A's of Fremont? Come on now, San Jose A's sounds fine by itself. Bay Area A's isn't too bad either as somebody suggested.

krudmonk · June 18th, 2007, 06:48 PM

Wolff may just be appeasing Fremont so they are quicker to greenlight everything. Once it's built, he can call the team whatever. The title "at Fremont" would be a commercial disaster for a guy who's trying to market to a new region.

edsg25 · June 20th, 2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by arturo

There's a Bay Area in Tampa, Chesepeake and SoCal at least. And as I've argued with many friends, Redondo Beach is in SoCals South Bay as well. Unless the A's are also trying to woo East Coast and Florida fans, I'd stick with a city name. (Though I'd be cool with them being called the California Athletics)

i'm sorry, but nationally the term "Bay Area" means the San Francisco Bay Area. There are two Kansas City's, but when someone says "Kansas City", I'm fairly sure they are referring to KC, MO....not the one in Kansas.

krudmonk · June 20th, 2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by edsg25

i'm sorry, but nationally the term "Bay Area" means the San Francisco Bay Area. There are two Kansas City's, but when someone says "Kansas City", I'm fairly sure they are referring to KC, MO....not the one in Kansas.

How often do you hear just "Bay Area" except on local news? It's always preceded by "San Francisco" because the body of water is not just Bay, but San Francisco Bay.

edsg25 · June 23rd, 2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by krudmonk

How often do you hear just "Bay Area" except on local news? It's always preceded by "San Francisco" because the body of water is not just Bay, but San Francisco Bay.

The Bay Area is the SF Bay Area nationally. In Chicago, there is no question what it means.

krudmonk · June 23rd, 2007, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by edsg25

The Bay Area is the SF Bay Area nationally. In Chicago, there is no question what it means.

I forgot Chicago was the rest of the world.

ltsmotorsport · June 23rd, 2007, 08:24 PM

Does anyone have a link to an article where this new name can be confirmed? All I saw was a speculative post about the name, and everyone ran with it like it was truth.

Hopefully they'll keep Oakland in the name (but preferably leave the name alone) since the team will still be in Alameda county. It would sure be a slap in the face to not even recognize Oakland at all.

krudmonk · June 23rd, 2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ltsmotorsport

It would sure be a slap in the face to not even recognize Oakland at all.

Like when Oakland desecrated the Coliseum just to please Al Davis? That wasn't a slap in the face? Ever notice how many A's fans dislike the Raiders?

vadin · June 23rd, 2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ltsmotorsport

Does anyone have a link to an article where this new name can be confirmed? All I saw was a speculative post about the name, and everyone ran with it like it was truth.

Hopefully they'll keep Oakland in the name (but preferably leave the name alone) since the team will still be in Alameda county. It would sure be a slap in the face to not even recognize Oakland at all.

Why would they want to have Oakland in their name after the Coliseum/City/County sold them out to get the Raiders to move back to the Coliseum?

Here's your link about the new name: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...PGLRMD55K1.DTL

svs · June 25th, 2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by edsg25

i'm sorry, but nationally the term "Bay Area" means the San Francisco Bay Area. There are two Kansas City's, but when someone says "Kansas City", I'm fairly sure they are referring to KC, MO....not the one in Kansas.

Sorry, spoken like someone who used to live in San Francisco. "Bay Area" doesn't even mean San Francisco in California. Hell, there are two bays in San Diego plus the Santa Monica Bay, Morro Bay, and Monterrey Bay. When you throw in the Boston Bay, the Chesapeake Bay, Norfolk Bay, Tampa Bay, Galveston Bay and all the other bays in the US, Bay area won't do it. On the other hand I think "San Francisco Bay Athletics" has a certain ring to it and may sell; unless you want to go all the way and rename them the "Silicon Valley Geeks".

arturo · June 25th, 2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by svs

On the other hand I think "San Francisco Bay Athletics" has a certain ring to it and may sell; unless you want to go all the way and rename them the "Silicon Valley Geeks".

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krudmonk · June 25th, 2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by svs

Sorry, spoken like someone who used to live in San Francisco. "Bay Area" doesn't even mean San Francisco in California. Hell, there are two bays in San Diego plus the Santa Monica Bay, Morro Bay, and Monterrey Bay. When you throw in the Boston Bay, the Chesapeake Bay, Norfolk Bay, Tampa Bay, Galveston Bay and all the other bays in the US, Bay area won't do it. On the other hand I think "San Francisco Bay Athletics" has a certain ring to it and may sell; unless you want to go all the way and rename them the "Silicon Valley Geeks".

"San Francisco Bay" is far worse for a team than "Silicon Valley." Nobody wants to support inflation of SF egos, especially A's fans.

vadin · June 26th, 2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by krudmonk

"San Francisco Bay" is far worse for a team than "Silicon Valley." Nobody wants to support inflation of SF egos, especially A's fans.

Exactly!!!! It's hard to imagine any longtime A's fan (or a fan of any Oakland team) supporting a team with "San Francisco" in it's name. Most of the A's and Raiders fans I know would rather have a hole in their head than have anything to do with a team in any way associated with San Francisco.

JoshuaSantos · June 26th, 2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by krudmonk

"San Francisco Bay" is far worse for a team than "Silicon Valley." Nobody wants to support inflation of SF egos, especially A's fans.

I didn't think of this at all... it's pretty safe to say that SF won't be in the name of the team. Especially considering the SF Giants exist. I also think we've established that Bay Area is too generic.

So I guess the real question is San Jose or Silicon Valley?

krudmonk · June 26th, 2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshuaSantos

I didn't think of this at all... it's pretty safe to say that SF won't be in the name of the team. Especially considering the SF Giants exist. I also think we've established that Bay Area is too generic.

So I guess the real question is San Jose or Silicon Valley?

I doubt it would be "Silicon Valley A's at Fremont" since that'd be a slap in the face to Fremont tech companies. Similarly, "Bay Area A's at Fremont" would be redundant. It'll have to be San Jose, I guess.

edsg25 · June 27th, 2007, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by krudmonk

I forgot Chicago was the rest of the world.

only 70-80% of it.

svs · June 27th, 2007, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by krudmonk
I forgot Chicago was the rest of the world.

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Originally Posted by edsg25

only 70-80% of it.

Everybody sing! "Its a small world after all, Its a small world........"

June 18th, 2007, 06:46 AM	#24
derek5 San Diegan for life Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 353 Likes (Received): 0	The name Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim is the worst sports name I have ever heard. Now this? San Jose A's of Fremont? Come on now, San Jose A's sounds fine by itself. Bay Area A's isn't too bad either as somebody suggested. __________________ rawr!

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June 18th, 2007, 06:48 PM	#25
krudmonk sucks Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sannozay Posts: 1,647 Likes (Received): 4	Wolff may just be appeasing Fremont so they are quicker to greenlight everything. Once it's built, he can call the team whatever. The title "at Fremont" would be a commercial disaster for a guy who's trying to market to a new region.

June 23rd, 2007, 08:24 PM	#30
ltsmotorsport Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Luis Obispo Posts: 94 Likes (Received): 0	Does anyone have a link to an article where this new name can be confirmed? All I saw was a speculative post about the name, and everyone ran with it like it was truth. Hopefully they'll keep Oakland in the name (but preferably leave the name alone) since the team will still be in Alameda county. It would sure be a slap in the face to not even recognize Oakland at all.