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Old December 29th, 2016, 01:24 PM   #1161
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Old December 29th, 2016, 07:11 PM   #1162
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Old December 30th, 2016, 09:06 PM   #1163
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Right now Beijing is really the los angeles of China!
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Old December 30th, 2016, 09:15 PM   #1164
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Old December 30th, 2016, 11:12 PM   #1165
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 08:48 PM   #1166
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Why do all these apartment blocks have all that empty space around them? It's so wasteful and promotes reliance on cars. Actually, they look like those terrible US housing projects from the 60s.
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 09:43 PM   #1167
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with all respect...would you like space between buildings like manhatan? because in manhatan the space is so tight....
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Old January 6th, 2017, 04:21 PM   #1168
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What an amazing shots of Beijing, still my #1 city... Thanks for sharing!
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Old January 6th, 2017, 09:32 PM   #1169
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Why do all these apartment blocks have all that empty space around them? It's so wasteful and promotes reliance on cars. Actually, they look like those terrible US housing projects from the 60s.
most of these buildings are tower blocks that can sustain a lot of people. I really can't understand your comparison.
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Old January 6th, 2017, 10:22 PM   #1170
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Why do all these apartment blocks have all that empty space around them? It's so wasteful and promotes reliance on cars. Actually, they look like those terrible US housing projects from the 60s.
because chinese mentality isn't yet in the XXIst century x)
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Old January 7th, 2017, 08:09 PM   #1171
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Why do all these apartment blocks have all that empty space around them? It's so wasteful and promotes reliance on cars. Actually, they look like those terrible US housing projects from the 60s.
Roofheightmatters,
yes, there were some terrible US high rise housing project, build somewhat cheaply intended for the low income minority families.
Most of these were welfare families with a single mother not always capable to control their male off-springs.
In few years the rival gangs emerged and shootings and rapes were common. Major decay, broken windows everywhere, broken, sabotaged elevator.
Some of these project were not safe for the residents even the police.
Many were dynamited, the best example was the Pruitt-Ygoe massive high rise apartment complex in St.Louis which was build in 1954 and dynamited in 1972.
Pruitt-Ygoe was designed by a famous Japanese architect Minoru Yamasaki who also designed the St.Louis airport and the WTC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt%E2%80%93Igoe

But the same type of projects worked well in Europe, mainly in UK and Holland.
Rotterdam has many of them working fine. In China probably quite successful and desirable as well.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 05:58 PM   #1172
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Old January 9th, 2017, 03:06 AM   #1173
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I have been reading about the very hight air pollution in Beijing lately but it does not look so bad in the photos above
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Old January 10th, 2017, 12:33 AM   #1174
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is the core topped out?
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Old January 10th, 2017, 04:57 AM   #1176
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The core is 507m above street level, if we do not count around 40 meters underground or "minuses" floors. Current height is 430-435 m maximum, above street level.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 03:56 PM   #1178
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I have been reading about the very hight air pollution in Beijing lately but it does not look so bad in the photos above
It's all about timing. Beijing isn't always bad for air pollution that you can see. In fact, Beijing is a gorgeous city that's ruined by the air pollution but rest assured, it's real.

Those mountains to the north and the west block the free movement of air necessary to clear things out. In the winter the coal fired plants go on and presto...it's smog city. When the weather warms up to near zero and with cloud cover, it's a disaster and you can nearly taste the pollution in the air. It's bad but it's not always like that.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 04:03 PM   #1179
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Why do all these apartment blocks have all that empty space around them? It's so wasteful and promotes reliance on cars. Actually, they look like those terrible US housing projects from the 60s.
I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you're referring to. You mean the land that's reserved for recreational space ? Do you mean the spacing between the buildings within specific projects ?

Remember, this is China and there are roughly 1.4 billion people living in an area about the size of Europe without Russia. That's not as much space as it may seem. And of course, an awful lot of those people are crammed into the cities themselves. Chinese cities are absolutely packed, make no mistake. Spacing between buildings in these newer developments is meant to create something like park space even if it's not very well maintained. Chinese people don't tend to mind tolerating the density (it's not like there's any choice anyway) but that only works if you give them something pleasant to look at. The old 6 story buildings are razed and replaced with buildings twice as tall. This means you can put more space between them and maintain the density.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 04:14 PM   #1180
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I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you're referring to. You mean the land that's reserved for recreational space ? Do you mean the spacing between the buildings within specific projects ?

Remember, this is China and there are roughly 1.4 billion people living in an area about the size of Europe without Russia. That's not as much space as it may seem. And of course, an awful lot of those people are crammed into the cities themselves. Chinese cities are absolutely packed, make no mistake. Spacing between buildings in these newer developments is meant to create something like park space even if it's not very well maintained. Chinese people don't tend to mind tolerating the density (it's not like there's any choice anyway) but that only works if you give them something pleasant to look at. The old 6 story buildings are razed and replaced with buildings twice as tall. This means you can put more space between them and maintain the density.

At least twice the height more often a lot higher.

You are right about the living space around the buildings that and the gardens help raise the quality of life compared to the old commie block developments previously.

Unless it is expereinced first hand it is almost impossible to grasp the sheer scale of urbanization in China.
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