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Old August 3rd, 2010, 11:10 AM   #1
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Mexican cities: Oaxaca, Guadalajara, Mexico city, Toluca.

I already started posting these on the french forum, but given the low reaction I am going to start posting them here earlier than expected

So after having shared with you photos from Peru, Ecuador and Colombia, this time it will from another big latin american country, Mexico.

Since my camera is getting pretty old (and it never was the best) and since I never take the time to learn how to make good photos, a lot of these are not very good. At least not as good as I would have hoped so when taking them. Entire sets of photos had to be erased because they were all pure shit, but oh well, still better than nothing.


These photos don't represent anything, they can only serve as an introduction to these different cities. If you people want to see more I strongly invite you to check google street view which covers a lot of Mexico now. Or even better, you can visit the place!


So we're going to start south with Oaxaca photos. One of the big cities in the south of the country (with a pop of 300 000). Known for it's important 'indigenous' population and for being home to many political and social conflicts.
In 2006 the city lived a state of quasi-insurrection ending up in very violent repression.





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03 - Like in the other countries I have seen in latin America, food stands are all over the place in the street. Everybody needs to make a living.


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05 - Trade-Unionists 'occupying' the city center.


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Old August 3rd, 2010, 11:15 AM   #2
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12 - A "tiangui', informal and precarious markets which can be found everywhere in Mexico (at least in the areas I've been too). Mexicans (at least those I've spoken with) told me that it is a pre-colombian custom which persisted. But it is also obviously a direct consequence of a very precarious job market (and getting even more fragile).


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14 - According to guides, this is the oldest tree in the world.


15 - Another constant in latin America, the poorer districts built on higher grounds around the city.


16 - Tianguis


17 - The photo is bad, but I almost got arrested because of it (the mexican police isn't the best around ), so I'll share it anyways.


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Much more to come.
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Old August 3rd, 2010, 02:26 PM   #3
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Viva México cabrones!

Thanks for sharing your pics, I love Méx
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Old August 4th, 2010, 09:34 PM   #4
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A huevo carnal

Oaxaca still

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25 - Quesadilla with drink in the street for less than two euros! Weak digestive systems beware though


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27 - Public transports in Oaxaca, I miss the Paris RER


28 - Inside the bus


29 - The Monte Alban precolombian ruins, next to the city


30 - Pretty big
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Old August 5th, 2010, 12:06 PM   #5
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I'm finished with Oaxaca, now we're going a bit north to Mexico city, the capital.


The city is huge and although it ressembles other latin american metropolises (it reminded me of Lima a lot), it functions according to it's own logic and coherence. Actualy there is no Mexico city, there are many mexico cities living next to each other with little to no contact, perhaps even moreso than elsewhere because of the shere size of the place (to give a sense of scale of the place, two of it's suburbs, ecatepec and neza have more than a million inhabitants each, as populated as La Paz in Bolivia).
You can find anything in this city, financial districts, slums, 'bohemian' areas, a city center with european architecture, over-guarded and hidden luxurious villas in the western hills, huge markets etc.

Sadly, my Mexico city photos are the most failed ones, a pitty, because it is by far the part of the country which interested me the most.





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02 - Coyoacan district in the south of the city. This is where we can find Frida Kahlo's house which has been turned into a museum. This district is described in guides as a place for "artists" and "bohemians"...


03 - Nice house for "bohemians"...


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05 - Coyoacan still. The mexican girl with the ice cream on the bottom right of the photo was very cute (and with boyfriend ).


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Old August 5th, 2010, 01:51 PM   #6
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interesting....great photos
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Old August 5th, 2010, 07:13 PM   #7
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Interesting and very nice photos for sure
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Old August 8th, 2010, 08:21 AM   #8
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It must have been interesting for you to see Mexico after having spent time in Peru, even if you are not Peruvian or Latin American for that matter. I've never been to Peru, I admit, but from what I've read and seen in many pics, documentaries, etc., it seems to me Mexico and Peru share many things, despite the distance that separates them:

1. Both are mountaneous countries that happen to be longer than wider (Mexico being bigger, though)
2. Both have a high percentage of indigenous people; both have even higher mestizo population that lean more towards the native side than the Spanish side; both countries had great pre-columbian civilizations
3. Both have diverse, rich cuisines (and truly tasty, unlike many other Latin American countries where foods are rather bland)
4. Both have amazing, busy capitals with colonial sections
5. Both have apparent poverty alongside wealth in selected places

And yet they are so different, especially since one is in South America and the other is in North America next to a developed country.
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Old August 9th, 2010, 02:33 AM   #9
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Yes, both countries are very much alike in many ways (at least the parts of Mexico I have seen, the north is probably a bit different), something which by the way seems to piss many mexicans when they hear it as I realised over there they sadly seem to have a condescending attitude towards Peru.
However there are also some important differences, Mexico has had a very different 20 century political history (no such thing as a massive PRI-state in Peru ever as it was the case in Mexico).

It is also quite obvious that there is more money in Mexico. I am not saying that the country is "richer" because overall wealth is a very criticable and reductionist concept (let's leave that to economists ).

However, you see less dirt roads in mexico, the houses have more paint on them, there are more buildings and so on. Does it translate to Mexico's 'working class' majority living better than peruvians? I don't know...

Anyways, some more photos:

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12 - A view from the 'Cuajimalpa' heights (where I stayed for a while) over some posh districts of the city


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17 - 'Tianguis' around the Pino-Suarez metro station in the city center (the photo is not very good I know but since we haven't seen many people yet on the mexico city photos I thought it was worthwhile, a city is always it's population as much as it's buildings).


18 - In the center


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20 - Torre latinoamericana
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Old August 10th, 2010, 12:57 PM   #10
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21 - Staying in the city center



22 - The central plaza of the city occupied by a giant screen for the world cup games, a stage for concerts and unionists protesting


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24 - Precolombian ruins in the heart of the city


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26 - Mexicans with whom I spoke to told me the center was full of french architecture, it actualy looked more spanish to me.


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28 - We're getting further away from the centre again and back to the west of the city where we can find both financial, upper and working class areas. The world's richest man, Carlos Slim, probably lives around here.


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30 - A bit more to the south, not far from the Ermita metro station for those who know the place.
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Old August 10th, 2010, 07:34 PM   #11
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Nice, except I think you're missing out on the nicer parts of the city, such as Santa Fe and the entire "Lomas" areas. Those are truly the nicer areas. Unfortunately, I do not have time to post pictures of them, but to anyone interested in Mexico City, you can always use Googlestreet to see.
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It's fascinating how chaotically urban (good thing) this country that borders the U.S. is!

I love that there are markets everywhere, people out and about, housing built close together, etc.

I have literally spent hours looking around Mexican cities on Google street view. Hopefully I can visit some of them but I'm too lazy to fly. I would never drive into Mexico from Texas.
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Old August 10th, 2010, 08:14 PM   #13
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interesting thread, I dont seen photos of the streets to the south of the country, very chaotic....
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Old August 11th, 2010, 03:04 AM   #14
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Nice, except I think you're missing out on the nicer parts of the city, such as Santa Fe and the entire "Lomas" areas. Those are truly the nicer areas. Unfortunately, I do not have time to post pictures of them, but to anyone interested in Mexico City, you can always use Googlestreet to see.
I'm sure he's seen the nicer parts of the city. Don't all tourists coming from North American, Europe and Japan usually stay in the nice places? Besides the Centro Historico, which can be very nice, though chaotic, most tourists stay and visit the nice places like Roma, Zona Rosa, Polanco, etc. I think it's not an exaggeration to say that outside of the nice and semi-nice areas, many would feel uncomfortable in the other parts of Mexico City.
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wtf, Oaxaca looks very caothic, i didn't know it, also i'm Mexican
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32 - A metro station. The Mexico city metro was a pleasant surprise for me, however it is often packed and much too hot. I think we can learn a lot on the people of a society, or at least a city, by being in it's metro.



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35 - Residential towers in the financial district of Santa Fe on the west of the city. I missed the skyline shots (sorry for those forumers looking for skyscraper porn) but it's pretty impressive area, a serie of skyscrapers in the middle of a hill in the outskirts of the city, with SUVs, security walls, private security agents and men in suits all around. These images are even stronger when you know there are some very dominated areas not very far.


36 - The "merced" market in the center. For the information, not very far is another well known DF market, Tepito. I was supposed to go there but the friend who is from around there and was going to take me there couldn't at the last moment.
And since the area is a bit dangerous for someone who isn't from the district (especially if he's a 'guero', as they call white people) it was better not to go alone. They say everything can be found at very very cheap prices (even for Mexico), many Mexican boxers are from the famous 'barrio bravo de Tepito'. They even have a particular cult towards the 'Santa Muerte' (saint-death) of course not recognised by the catholic church.
La Merced is a bit of all that too, but on a much smaller scale and it seems without such a strong identity.


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38 - Back in Cuajimalpa


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41 - Symbolical violence at it's worst....


End of the Mexico City tour, next in line, the amazing, fun and vibrant Toluca!
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Mexico is incredible....I love this country...
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Old August 19th, 2010, 12:55 AM   #18
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Wow, refreshingly different collection. Thank you, I enjoyed every single one of them.
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Old August 22nd, 2010, 03:59 PM   #19
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Toluca now

The city is of average size (with a bit more than a million inhabitants) but it's the city with the highest growth in Mexico. Very industrialised, it is too close to Mexico city (around an hour) to sport it's own identity but too far away to really be part of the megacity. Nobody likes this city in Mexico , even it's inhabitants don't like it, and they are generally considered cold and boring (and because people look very indigenous in this city, a latent racism can be perceived as well). However as usual these categorisations are nothing more than myths, it's in Toluca that I made some of the best encounters.



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Old August 24th, 2010, 12:57 AM   #20
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Pictures of Oaxaca were a real eye opener. FYI Oaxaca has an HDI of .756 well below the national average of .854. In fact out of the 31 states plus the DF, it places the 30th position in terms of HDI
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