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Old March 18th, 2012, 02:44 PM   #41
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мудак - это государство, которое держит Забайкалье и его население в таком состоянии.Извиняюсь, что задел патриотические чувства.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 10:25 AM   #42
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Old Russian house in Manzhouli
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Old March 19th, 2012, 03:33 PM   #43
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big-dog, this is dialog about situation in russia,when goverment absolutaly dont care about Siberia and siberians, but almost all treasure of russia - from siberia (oil,wood,gold,coal)/ I live near trans-siberian railroad and everyday i can see soooo many trains with wood,for example. Its going to China,of couse, but we,simple population,cant see money from their sale.apropos, all of this trains go 2 china throw the Manzouli - this town is built due to this fact
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Old March 19th, 2012, 03:38 PM   #44
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Old March 19th, 2012, 03:46 PM   #45
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russians in Manzouli

rus pic about war of russian empire and japan. cossac protects manzouli and port-artur.1904.


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Столкновения с русскими на северной границе Маньчжурии начинаются с русско-китайской войны 1658 года, в ходе которой они также впервые встретились с корейцами.

Итогом военного противостояния стал подписанный в 1689 году Нерчинский договор по которому русско-китайской границей сделали реки Амур, Аргунь и Горбица.

Слухи о богатых месторождениях золота в 1883 году вызвали стихийное образование на берегах реки Желта, притоке Албазихи, втекающей в реку Амур, так называемой Желтугинской республики. Зимой 1885—1886 годов Китай, недовольный существованием на его территории Желтугинской республики, переполненной русскими нелегалами, добывающими золото из его недр, выслал многочисленную армию для ликвидации республики. Узнав об этом, многие жители бежали. И в январе 1886 года, после недолгого сопротивления, республика прекратила своё существование.[источник не указан 910 дней]

В ходе японско-китайской войны (1894—1895) часть Маньчжурии была занята японцами, но по Симоносекскому договору возвращена Китаю.

Ослабление цинского правительства привело к усилению русского влияния в Маньчжурии, которая постепенно была подчинена сфере русских коммерческих и политических интересов. Во многом это было связано с заключенным в 1896 году, после разгрома войск Цинской империи в японско-китайской войне, союзническим договором.

С 1896 года по кратчайшему на Владивосток маршруту через Харбин была построена китайско-восточная железная дорога (КВЖД). Видную роль в изучении Маньчжурии и строительстве дороги сыграл Н. С. Свиягин.

В 1898 году по Русско-китайской конвенции Россия арендовала у Китая Ляодунский полуостров с прилегающими островами, укрепила Порт-Артур и построила коммерческий порт Дальний, которые были соединены железной дорогой с восточно-китайской линией на Владивосток.

В 1900 года вследствие восстания боксёров район КВЖД в Маньчжурии был занят русскими войсками.

В 1903 году Россия учредила в Порт-Артуре Наместничество Дальнего Востока, и российское правительство рассматривало проект закрепления Маньчжурии как «Желтороссии», основой которой должны были стать учреждённая в 1899 году Квантунская область, полоса отчуждения КВЖД, формирование нового казачьего войска и заселение русскими колонистами.[1]

Притязания Японии, находившейся под покровительством Британской империи, на Маньчжурию и Корею и отказ Российской империи в нарушение союзнического договора вывести русские войска из Манчжурии и Кореи повлекли за собой русско-японскую войну 1904—1905, районом военных действий которой была вся южная Маньчжурия до Мукдена.

Заселение Маньчжурии японцами. 1910

Итогом войны стало то, что российское влияние в Маньчжурии было заменено японским. По Портсмутскому миру Ляодунский полуостров c Квантунской областью и русская железная дорога (ЮМЖД) от Куанченцзы (Чанчунь) до Порт-Артура отошли к Японии. В период между 1905 и 1925 годами, воспользовалась ослаблением России во время российской гражданской войны 1918—1921 годов, Япония ещё более усилила своё влияние во Внутренней Маньчжурии, опираясь на экономические рычаги.[2] Позже Япония не допустила восстановления китайского контроля над Маньчжурией, оккупировала её и создала там прояпонское марионеточное государство Манчжоу-го.
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briefly
at the end 19 ages russian have built in china railway from manzhouli to Dalian, have founded the city Dalian (russians named this city "Dalniy" - FARCity) and Haerbin. The First beer factory in china is built by russians - so word "beer" [pivo in russsian language] sounds on chinese similar.

Haerbin, russian cathedral of Sofia, now - museum of architecture


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Old March 19th, 2012, 04:02 PM   #47
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my photo of Manzhouli


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Old March 19th, 2012, 04:09 PM   #48
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@shaarhai, Thanks for the background introduction and the wonderful pictures!
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Old March 19th, 2012, 04:24 PM   #49
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with pleasure

I really proud of my nations and history of my country, but i cry about russia nowdays
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Old March 25th, 2012, 10:57 PM   #50
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Thanks for your interesting input shaarhai!

Seems like this article suports your view. Do you agree with the rest it says, especially when it comes to what is happening in Russia?

Seems like a lovely city!

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China and Russia build ties across border

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Manzhouli, China (CNN) – In Inner Mongolia – the frozen grasslands between China and Russia – it's hard to imagine anything surviving. Yet in the Chinese border town of Manzhouli, business is thriving.

Manzhouli is now one of China's busiest land ports, with $10 billion dollars-worth of timber and other goods passing through every year.

Traders like Huang Jincai are shipping in Siberian timber, revitalizing this once sleepy outpost. Jincai runs a multi-million dollar business cutting and selling timber all over China – with 10% sales growth every year.

"Without this business, I would just be another laborer," Jincai told CNN’s Eunice Yoon.

"I have a house and a car now and the standard of living has improved," he added. "Now more and more people are coming here."

Business between Beijing and Moscow hasn't always been this good. Only four decades ago the two nations clashed over this border - a heavily fortified barricade during the Cold War. Yet after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, relations began to thaw.

Manzhouli is now home to 300,000 people - a 15-fold jump since the end of the Cold War.

Annual trade between China and Russia is now worth more than $55 billion, and China is driving the relationship forward, hoping to further open landlocked Central Asia. It is setting up an economic zone here for factories to process timber and feed the nation's voracious appetite for natural resources.

Russian Auto parts dealer Pasha Gulakov has been coming to Manzhouli for a decade. He negotiates deals to buy components in China to sell back in Russia, with little concern for the hostilities of the two nations' past.

"Manzhouli feels like home," he said. "I have many friends here."

But some argue that Russia is lagging behind in developing its own border towns.

"Behind me is Manzhouli's sister town in Russia,” said Gulakov. “You can see there isn't much activity. People on this side of the border complain the Russians aren't doing enough to develop their side."

Some businessmen complain that Russians are unpredictable about regulations.

Jincai says they should do more, but he's optimistic.

"The Chinese government has invested a lot in Manzhouli," he said. "I hope the Russian side will also do the same and invest in its border towns. If they invest more, then our town will grow."

Source: http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...across-border/

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The network’s correspondent Melissa Chan was scheduled to leave Beijing by jet Monday night after the government refused normally routine requests to renew her press credentials or to allow another correspondent to replace her.

- By MICHAEL WINES ,China Expels Al Jazeera Channel, Published: May 7, 2012, nytimes.com
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I really proud of my nations and history of my country, but i cry about russia nowdays
Blame it on rampant bureaucracy and deep-rooted corruption seeping into Russia since the oil and gas boom of the late 90's and 2000's.

The royalties meant for the government and the public in general are actually going into the pockets of corporations.
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Looks very nice and fresh! It seems it has a Russian touch as well.
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Solely judging from those pictures, I'm assuming that the city is pretty crazy wealthy? The store fronts, people, number of cars, and overall atmosphere almost give a good idea of what a third tier Chinese city would look like if China were a developed country. Any economic statistics regarding this city?
Probably has something to do with the booming mining sector -- the region is rich in coal and rare earths.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 02:56 AM   #56
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After seeing so many russian signs in the city, I went to Wikipedia and saw that 95% of city's population is Han Chineese...
And now I'm confused.
Why so many russian signs if Russians are 1-2% of the population?

For example

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It is a popular tourist town for the Russian by the Russian border.
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I think because most of the visitors are Russian.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 02:44 PM   #59
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It's nice to see such a great relations between 2 nations...

Can't see that often, especially in my part of the world (Balkans, Europe).
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After seeing so many russian signs in the city, I went to Wikipedia and saw that 95% of city's population is Han Chineese...
And now I'm confused.
Why so many russian signs if Russians are 1-2% of the population?

For example

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