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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:54 PM   #61
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Landshut looks nice as well. And it's got the tallest brick tower in the world.
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 10:35 PM   #62
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Stünning to say the leäst!
Germany totally owns hände hoch hands down!
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 11:35 PM   #63
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me too!

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you made a good choice for your trips!
Instead of Würzburg you could perhaps visit Bamberg. Or if you take Würzburg then you could make a stop in Thuringia on your way to Dresden/Leipzig.

Erfurt and Weimar a pretty nice as well!

You're right! Würzburg is actually a lot closer to Frankfurt anyway. And Weimar and Bayreuth are interesting to me for literary reasons!
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Old September 24th, 2010, 02:33 PM   #64
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Weimar really appears to be a gem. Sadly I've never been there but I wouldn't mind making a similar thread about Thuringia next year.
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Old September 25th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #65
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Dresden photos are absolutely great, Kampflamm
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Old October 4th, 2010, 09:34 PM   #66
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The journey continues...

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The first photo of Gorlitz is really good
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Old October 5th, 2010, 01:42 PM   #68
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I agree..

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Old October 5th, 2010, 09:30 PM   #69
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Old October 6th, 2010, 04:33 AM   #70
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Well, Zittau is a little bit dead town.. it should have 50, not 25,000! Many cheap houses/flats for sale, too sad my german ends with Wer? Wie? Was? They have nice Kaufland in Zittau though..
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Geilobello! It's really sad that the the nice towns are in the east and the ugly towns in the west.
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Old October 6th, 2010, 06:18 AM   #72
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Great updates as usual.
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Old October 6th, 2010, 02:40 PM   #73
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Geilobello! It's really sad that the the nice towns are in the east and the ugly towns in the west.
It is not true; there are some beautiful cities in the west like Wiesbaden, Munich, Heidelberg, Regensburg, Ingolstadt, Freiburg, Lubeck, etc, etc, etc, etc
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Old October 6th, 2010, 07:39 PM   #74
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It is not true; there are some beautiful cities in the west like Wiesbaden, Munich, Heidelberg, Regensburg, Ingolstadt, Freiburg, Lubeck, etc, etc, etc, etc
That's for me the north and south.And indeed these cities are really beautiful, i visited last weekend Konstanz what was really nice.But when i say west then i mean NRW.It's okay to live there but the cities are buttugly, especially the ruhrgebiet.
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Well, Zittau is a little bit dead town.. it should have 50, not 25,000! Many cheap houses/flats for sale, ...
That's quite sad if you think that the city had 37000 habitants 100 years ago.
Ingolstadt in Bavaria for example increased in the same time from 25000 to 125000 habitants!
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Old October 6th, 2010, 09:21 PM   #76
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My guess is that western Germany is relatively ugly because it could be reached by Anglo-American bombers throughout the war. Plus it's Germany's economic heartland (at least it was back then).

The big thing the east has going for it is that people care much more about the appearance of old houses these days. There are so many Gründerzeit buildings in the west that just look buttugly thanks to cheapass plastic windows. A proper window can make or break a building and people in the east have understood this. Leipzig looks so classy because its late 19th century architecture has gotten a proper makeover.
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Old October 7th, 2010, 10:06 PM   #77
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My guess is that western Germany is relatively ugly because it could be reached by Anglo-American bombers throughout the war. Plus it's Germany's economic heartland (at least it was back then).
I agree that (North-) Western Germany was indeed easier to attack for the RAF. But that doesn't explain why some cities in the south-west are quite ugly, too: Pforzheim and - sorry - also to some extent Stuttgart!

But Saxony for example was one of the most richest regions in Germany from the late 19th century to WWII.

So I think it was a combination of blind belief in progress (cities adapted to cars, separated for living, working and consuming), lack of living space with lots of bombed out people and refugess from the ancient east)
and having the financial possibilities (funds) to built anything because of the economic succes from the 50's to the 70's.

And Munich was heavily destroyed, too but did a way better job in re-building then most of the bigger cities in West-Germany.
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Old October 9th, 2010, 01:30 AM   #78
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Yeah, a lot depended on local politicians. Munich was lucky to have some people in charge after the war that put a lot of emphasis on rebuilding in a traditional style. Some of the postwar buildings on Marienplatz look like they were built decades if not centuries before WW2 (at least to a layman like me). Sadly other German cities were influenced by politicians and lobbyist that wanted car friendly cities.
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I agree that (North-) Western Germany was indeed easier to attack for the RAF. But that doesn't explain why some cities in the south-west are quite ugly, too: Pforzheim and - sorry - also to some extent Stuttgart!
The difference between Baden-Wurtemberg and NRW is that there far more historic cities left in the form. Tubingen, Esslingen, Heidelberg, Konstanz, Ravensburg, Schwabisch Hall, Baden-Baden and so on.
Freiburg was also very nicely rebuilt.

Of course Nordrhein-Westfalen have the dome of Aachen. It is not too shabby either. Some parts of Dusseldorf is also nice.....
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