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Old January 26th, 2013, 07:29 AM   #261
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Well done, MBTA. It took you only 5 years since first announcing the extension to start it. Bravo.

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Seasonal passenger rail service to Cape Cod will be reintroduced this summer. The schedules are not available yet but there is a website and a map:

http://www.capeflyer.com/

I really hope that the rail link to the Cape is not like the soon-to-be-built South Coast Rail.

And here it is, the plan for transit spending over the next few years. Pissing money away on the South Coast Rail, bupkis for the Green Line Extension. No mention of these three essential projects.
1) North-South Link
2) Red-Blue Connector
3) Urban Ring

Another splendid job, MassDOT.

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21st Century Transportation Plan

BOSTON – The Board of the Massachusetts Department of Transportation and Transportation Secretary and CEO Richard A. Davey today announced a plan for the next generation of transportation investment in the Commonwealth.

The long-term financing plan shows that the state needs $684 million to operate the same system we have today. The plan calls for an additional investment in our transportation assets of $5.2 billion over ten years in road and highway repair in order to reduce the number of structurally deficient bridges and ease congestion on major arteries throughout the state; $3.8 billion to invest in existing transit services; and $275 million for Registry and airport maintenance. These investments are to responsibly maintain the current transportation assets we have today.

Lastly, the plan identifies a number of high-impact transportation projects across Massachusetts that, if built, will create thousands of jobs and spur economic development across the Commonwealth. In all, the plan identifies a $1.02 billion average additional need each year to create a 21st-Century transportation network.
http://www.mbta.com/about_the_mbta/n...26&month=&year

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Old January 26th, 2013, 07:40 AM   #262
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The Cape Cod train is only meant to be a seasonal weekend service and there's an actual date, so it's fair to assume it will be happening.

The South Coast rail project to the luso-americano districts is intended to be an actual commuter rail train, has no start date of construction or service, and will therefore not happen anytime soon.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 07:46 AM   #263
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The Cape Cod train is only meant to be a seasonal weekend service and there's an actual date, so it's fair to assume it will be happening.

The South Coast rail project to the luso-americano districts is intended to be an actual commuter rail train, has no start date of construction or service, and will therefore not happen anytime soon.
I really don't get why it costs $2 billion. Is there anywhere else in the country where a single commuter rail line costs that much?

Here is a blog post that does a nice job of explaining the dysfunctional entity that is MassDOT.

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Has MassDOT Reached the End of the Road for Internal Reform?

Two Fridays ago, Governor Deval Patrick stated that he would unveil a proposal later this month to raise the necessary money through taxes or fees to fix the financially beleaguered transport network. Today, the details of where the money would be coming from and how much were revealed by the Governor and MassDOT.

The original Globe article on the issue highlighted that the annual gap between actual needs and what is actually raised and spent amounts to nearly $1 billion annually. This comes even after many years of reform that have consolidated a number of state agencies under MassDOT and produced efficiencies that have saved the state countless hundreds of millions of dollars over the years.

As temperatures dip far below freezing once again, it becomes painfully clear to many commuters that our aging transit system is in dire need of investment that no amount of structural reform will provide. MBCR spokesman Scott Farmelant notes, ‘There is only one way to prevent cold-weather delays: increased capital investment into the infrastructure, in particular signals, switches, and bridges.’
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Old January 26th, 2013, 07:52 AM   #264
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The level of mismanagement is extraordinary. Take for example the debacle over the commuter rail contract, which went to the lowest bidder in Korea:

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For MBTA, canceling contract for new railcars should be last resort

January 23, 2013

Hyundai Rotem, the sluggish South Korean railcar builder, must feel it has the MBTA and its riders over a barrel. Sure, the company lags far behind its schedule for providing 75 badly needed double-decker coaches. Sure, the four test cars it finally did provide in 2012, more than two years late, have been rife with faulty workmanship. Sure, the original $190 million contract brought suspicion on the MBTA, after it became clear the company had hired a senior T official’s father to help win a contract in Philadelphia. But what’s the MBTA going to do about it now? Cancel the whole contract and start all over again?

That’s just what the T has threatened to do in a letter to Hyundai Rotem last month, but it’s unclear how realistic a threat that is. Canceling the contract outright should be the last resort. The T has declined to comment on what its Plan B is, or, indeed, if it even has one. According to public-transportation analysts, it can easily take five years between the day a contract is put out to bid and when the new coaches start carrying passengers. Five years? The desperate need for more reliable equipment — now — is one of the reasons the questionable Hyundai deal was rammed through so quickly in the first place. That was in 2008.

Speed is not the only consideration, of course. The T’s letter raised serious questions about the quality of the four test cars,which had chassis and wiring problems. If in the T’s estimation the cars are unsafe, or will create an ongoing maintenance nightmare for the agency, it must cancel the contract. But if those issues can be addressed, and the T has no clear backup plan to fill the need more quickly than waiting for Hyundai, the best course for T officials is to grit their teeth and stick with the plan. That is what the transit agency in Philadelphia did after similar problems arose with its Hyundai Rotem deal. Philadelphia’s cars were more than a year late, but more than 90 percent of them have now arrived, and more than 100 are in service.

Whatever the T decides, the clear lesson is that the agency must take a hard look at its flawed contracting process. This is not the first major rail contract that has gone sour, with direct consequences for riders. In 1993, bowing to backroom political interference, the agency purchased concrete ties that turned out to be faulty; passengers paid the price with cancellations as the ties were replaced in 2010 and 2011 at a cost of $91.5 million. A 1995 deal with Breda for new Green Line trolleys also turned into a fiasco.

Perhaps the lesson is that the T just isn’t very good at handling big equipment contracts. There is an alternative: Even as the T mulls what to do with the Hyundai Rotem deal, the agency is also considering a new contract to operate the commuter rail system itself. The existing model has been for the T to buy cars and locomotives for the operator, but giving the contractor a longer-term deal and the responsibility to buy equipment could save the T some headaches. The delayed Hyundai cars are a powerful argument for trying a different approach.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 08:16 AM   #265
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Yeah, operation of the commuter rail network is rigged in favour of MBCR.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 11:00 PM   #266
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I really don't get why it costs $2 billion. Is there anywhere else in the country where a single commuter rail line costs that much?

Here is a blog post that does a nice job of explaining the dysfunctional entity that is MassDOT.


http://transitmatters.info/2013/01/1...ternal-reform/
It will be a Network of 2 lines through mostly wetlands , and electrified. However the NJT MOM network is similar , and would only cost 400 million.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 01:33 AM   #267
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The level of mismanagement is extraordinary. Take for example the debacle over the commuter rail contract, which went to the lowest bidder in Korea:

Boston Globe
http://bostonglobe.com/editorial/201...GTI/story.html
The spin of the news article is interesting. In two contracts with private companies (Rotem and Breda), the private companies failed to meet their contractual obligations, yet it is the public agency (MBTA) that is considered guilty of mismanagement.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 03:27 AM   #268
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I really don't get why it costs $2 billion. Is there anywhere else in the country where a single commuter rail line costs that much?

For those who know well of how things get done in states like Massaachusetts, a $2 billion price tag for so little comes as no surprise.

Just wait until the tab for the whole thing comes in.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 08:13 AM   #269
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They're not planning to electrify South Coast Rail with overhead cat, are they?
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They're not planning to electrify South Coast Rail with overhead cat, are they?
They are...thats why the cost is so high they need to buy a whole new fleet.
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They are...thats why the cost is so high they need to buy a whole new fleet.
Where does it say that they are? Because that's not what I'm reading in all the press releases.
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MBTA Government Center Station Project Update



The MBTA Government Center Station Project construction is scheduled to begin in spring 2013 with site preparation and work zone set up in support of the full station closure in late summer.

The $91 million, three-year Government Center Station Project will bring the new station, seen at left, into compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act and combines improvements to the Green Line Station, Blue Line Station, and Cambridge Street/Government Center Plaza.

The project includes reconstruction of both the Green Line and Blue Line platforms, new elevators from the surface to the Green Line level and from the Green Line level to the Blue Line level, a new headhouse structure as the primary entrance to the Station, and reconstruction of Cambridge Street and City Hall plaza in the vicinity of the station.

The result will be a new station fully accessible, customer-friendly and efficient, that creates an accessible route to Boston City Hall and surrounding public sidewalks. The reconfiguration of the plaza is consistent with the City’s initiative of greening City Hall plaza.

The project will close Government Center Station to patrons for 24 months during the construction period by diverting passengers to other nearby stations. Temporary closure of the station to patrons eliminates the need for a temporary headhouse, avoids numerous weekend and nightly closures, and allows construction to proceed more rapidly, reducing the overall construction schedule.
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MBTA General Manager Beverly Scott said the promised coaches would be delivered.


A South Korea-based company under fire for failing to deliver any of its 75 double-decker coaches to the commuter rail on time is making progress on its $190 million contract with the state, and three of the cars will be in service in April, with 15 expected to be running by September, the head of the MBTA said Monday.

“We promise we’re going to deliver,” Beverly Scott, general manager of the MBTA, said in a phone interview.

Earlier in the day, Scott visited the Philadelphia plant of Hyundai Rotem, the company building the coaches, and said she was “impressed with the organization.”

“I’m really glad we’re turning the corner,” she said.

A company spokesman could not be reached for comment Monday.

Along with the cars that are expected to be running by September, the entire fleet will be ready for the commuter rail in 2014, Scott said.

“We’re not going to compromise quality,” she said. “You can tell there is a commitment from Hyundai.”

Scott’s comments differed markedly from December, when state transit officials threatened to end the contract. The chief financial officer of the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority wrote in a letter to the company at the time that “this seriously troubled procurement is at a point of crisis.”

When the contract was awarded in early 2008, the first four cars were scheduled to *arrive by October 2010, and all 75 were supposed to be carrying commuters in and out of Boston by the end of 2012. *Instead, the first four coaches did not reach the MBTA for testing until last fall.

Scott said Monday that the company has committed more funding, materials, and workers to the plant in recent months. She also said that production delays in projects of similar scope are common.

“I wish I could tell you otherwise,” said Scott, a 35-year public transit veteran who previously led the transit system in Atlanta. She was selected for the MBTA job last September.

Hyundai Rotem made a bold entrance into the US market a decade ago with attractive promises, well-placed connections, and prices that beat experienced competitors.

Some in the industry considered it a risky bet, given that Hyundai Rotem had yet to open an assembly plant on American soil, a requirement under federal law. At the time, the company had not yet demonstrated experience negotiating the stricter safety standards and other require*ments that have bedeviled several large international corporations trying to break *into the US transit and passenger rail market.

Scott’s visit to Philadelphia came after company officials met with her and other T officials in Boston last week.

Scott pledged Monday to keep a close eye on production.

“You never put them on automatic pilot,” she said, “so this won’t be the last time that I’ll be down there. . . . The proof is in the pudding, at the end of the day.”

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Scheduled for seasonal Cape Flyer service to Cape Cod released:

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...One has to wonder why the train takes almost an hour longer than the drive does. Of all places that I thought might get this sort of transit right...you'd have to assume very, very heavy highway traffic for this to represent a time improvement.

Don't get me wrong; as a person without a car, I greatly appreciate that this is here, and as a transit fan, it's certainly encouraging that they offer this. But it seems like it could've been executed better.
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That's right, Cape Cod is an island due to the Cape Cod Canal. There are only two bridges to Cape Cod and they often experience heavy traffic during summer weekends.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 05:15 PM   #279
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Where is the rail station in Buzzards Bay?
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