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Old February 5th, 2015, 11:54 PM   #401
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Well it doesn't really matter, as long as it works and it's practical. Paris metro for example is really old and dirty and it's decomposing but it works fine.
The real problem with Boston subway, and MBTA in general, is frequency. It's horrible, i had to wait 14 minutes once, at Forest Hills and it was weekday noon-ish while there are other metro systems where there's a train every 45'' in rush hour.
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A train every 45 inches? Of track?? Man that's close. Surprised they don't have more accidents!!
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Old February 6th, 2015, 02:51 AM   #403
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Every 45 seconds.

Which is still insanely close.

But they do it in places like London, Paris, and Tokyo.
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Old February 6th, 2015, 12:37 PM   #404
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45sec. is quite a bit exagerated, right. That would mean, that the next train waits in the tunnel for the previous train to leave the station.
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Old February 6th, 2015, 03:04 PM   #405
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45sec. is quite a bit exagerated, right. That would mean, that the next train waits in the tunnel for the previous train to leave the station.
That does actually happen in Paris - at least, on line 1 - because many of the older stations are very near each other (you can see the next train when you get on at your station, sometimes.

I don't know what a 2-3 minute headway translates too, though, in the number of trains on the track.

Biggest problem for most metro systems, I would guess then, is the lack of much movement on CBTC: the equipment is expensive.

(For reference, you can see this if you pause at about 4:50 or so. The line is automated, so they don't frequently have issues, but occasionally, I've seen a train dwell at a station for too long, and we had to wait in the tunnel until it left)
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Old February 6th, 2015, 03:10 PM   #406
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That does actually happen in Paris - at least, on line 1 - because many of the older stations are very near each other (you can see the next train when you get on at your station, sometimes.
Tokyo, too. Though less waiting at stations and more just really close running (achieved through efficiency).

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I don't know what a 2-3 minute headway translates too, though, in the number of trains on the track.
It depends on how long the line is.

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Biggest problem for most metro systems, I would guess then, is the lack of much movement on CBTC: the equipment is expensive.
Indeed. New York has some stretches that are 50+ year-old designs.
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Old February 6th, 2015, 03:16 PM   #407
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It depends on how long the line is.
Right, I meant specifically on those older lines (like line 1) which have stations that are very close. At peak, there's usually one train at the next platform (which you can clearly see from many stations) and another at the station behind you....I think on some stretches, the headway can be close to 1 minute. But again, they're really closely spaced, and the trains themselves aren't very long because of that.

Speaking of CBTC, is the T actual LRT or a Tram/LRT-Hybrid - like the SF Muni?
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The Green Line, the Mattapan-Ashmont High Speed Line, and the Muni Metro are all survivors of the long-original streetcar systems. The heart of the Green Line underground at Park Street opened in 1897.

It's probably safe to say that trying to make such distinctions is irrelevant for such systems.
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Old February 6th, 2015, 07:07 PM   #409
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I've seen a train dwell at a station for too long, and we had to wait in the tunnel until it left)
Every single train on the Green Line in Boston has to wait in tunnel several times, especially when a branch merges into the main line.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 06:35 PM   #411
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another great MBTA day......2nd week in a row now

1 coworker was stuck on the train for 2 hours, 2 #$%@% hours! took him 4 hours to get here.

Red Line Train Stuck Between Quincy Center, Quincy Adams

http://www.boston.com/news/weather/2...ure_stack_1_hp

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Old February 10th, 2015, 02:43 AM   #414
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The MBTA is shut down from 7 pm 2015.02.09 to start of service on 2015.02.11. This is a total disruption of the system that is likely to eclipse the Tsarnaev-related shutdown in April 2013.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 04:46 PM   #415
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This cracked me up although it is the simple truth. I got lucky this am. The bus was running.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 06:28 PM   #416
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January 27: CLOSED. The entire MBTA system shuts down for a day during major storm #1.
January 28: Delays including a disabled train as the system attempts to reopen.
January 29: Delays. The usual. Nothing major.
January 30: Breakdowns, smoke, and evacuations at the Orange Line's busiest station, Downtown Crossing, during rush hour.
January 31: Normal service!
February 1: Just some smoke. Firefighters called. No big deal. Pretty normal service.
February 2: Moderate delays, as the MBTA tries to operate through major storm #2.
February 3: Severe delays as 40 percent of Orange Line cars are disabled as the MBTA attempts to recover from the storm and operate through single digit temps.
February 4: Gradual recovery, but still delays on all lines. Patriots parade, and continuing recovery from storms and all that.
February 5: 75% of fleet available during continued recovery.
February 6: Severe delays and shortage of trains as single digit temps knocked much of already fragile fleet out of service.
February 7: No Orange Line service between Oak Grove and Sullivan. Shuttle buses replace service as the T prepares for the next storm and deals with a VERY limited fleet.
February 8: Moderate delays as the next storm begins and many of the Orange Line trains aren't back in service, yet. At least it's a Sunday.
February 9: Severe delays on entire line and eventually suspension of service between Oak Grove and Sullivan as the T attempts to operate during major storm #3.
February 10: CLOSED. The entire MBTA system shuts down for a day to recover from the latest storm.
February 11: Severe delays on entire line and only one train "shuttling back-and-forth" between Oak Grove and Sullivan as the north-bound track is completely buried.
February 12: Still only one train "shuttling back-and-forth" between Oak Grove and Sullivan as track is still buried. Delays on entire line.
February 13: Limited service, but Oak Grove end of line reopens, as track is finally cleared.
February 14: Early closure due to frigid temps and in preparation for upcoming storm.
February 15: CLOSED. The entire MBTA system shuts down for a day during major storm #4.
February 16: Limited service between North Station and Back Bay only as the T recovers from the latest storm and deals with sub-zero temps. Buses to Forest Hill and Oak Grove.
February 17: Limited service between Sullivan and Forest Hills only with shuttle buses operating between Oak Grove and Sullivan.
February 18: Only operating between Oak Grove and Wellington in morning, with trains running every 12 minutes. Entire line reopened during afternoon.
February 19: Service to all stations all day. Trains running every 12 minutes with limited fleet
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Old February 22nd, 2015, 09:23 AM   #418
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looks like the last closed stretches of the Green Line "B" and Red Line between N Quincy and Braintree should open by Monday.


http://mbta.com/winter/
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Old March 1st, 2015, 07:49 PM   #419
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Any pictures from the very icy, snowy and wintery period you are experiencing ?
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Old March 7th, 2015, 10:39 AM   #420
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Some February Transit Photos from Ian Martin


Limping Along
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Bringing up the Rear
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Crossing St. Mary's
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West to Worcester
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Boston College Bound
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Digging Out
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End of the Line
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North Station, Going South
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Newburyport Bound
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