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Old March 10th, 2016, 06:14 PM   #561
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Kind of surprised they didn't take this opportunity to install platform screen doors. This station probably won't see any more work done for many decades, so it seems like installing them would've been pretty obvious. Any particular reason that we know of why they weren't?
PSD are typically not used in conjunction with light rail. The only example I can think of is Dubai.
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Old March 10th, 2016, 09:14 PM   #562
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Just seems like it couldn't really hurt. Climate control and safety are helped by platform screen doors regardless of the rolling stock that runs by the platform.
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Old March 10th, 2016, 10:01 PM   #563
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I don't think the trains stop at the same point on the platform reliably enough for them to be used especially because the dimensions of the doors and their placement varies on each type of trolley. Or at least they appear to... I think it would be too hard to line up correctly for them to be as useful as they can be.
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Old March 11th, 2016, 04:34 AM   #564
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Good point. Yet another demonstrator of how incredibly short Boston's system falls of the world's best.
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Good point. Yet another demonstrator of how incredibly short Boston's system falls of the world's best.
That part of the Green Line is 119 years old. You can't really blame them for being the world pioneer in electrified underground mass transit.
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Old March 12th, 2016, 02:19 AM   #566
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That's true, but if Boston's system was at one point the world's most advanced, then it's even sadder commentary in light of its present state.
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Old March 12th, 2016, 04:59 AM   #567
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That's true, but if Boston's system was at one point the world's most advanced, then it's even sadder commentary in light of its present state.
Its both the lack of investment in past decades, and the fact that retrofitting an older system can be much harder and more expensive than building a new one.

Its like trying to transplant a plant. You want to do it when its young, so there are fewer roots to move. The roots are the complex, organic, evolution of a system over time. As a system gets older, it gets more complex, and components have to be designed to fit with existing systems-Boston must order completely new and distinct designs of LRVs because no other system in the world quite matches its specifications.

In order to install platform doors, a completely new and homogeneous fleet would be needed, not an easy task when you have several hundred vehicles to replace. Then, several of the stations downtown and the tunnel around them would have to be completely rebuilt, at the cost of billions of dollars. Then, a new signalling and control system would have to be designed and installed, which would also be quite expensive.
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Old March 13th, 2016, 03:20 AM   #568
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Right, and installing platform screen doors is obviously not enough to justify that kind of expenditure by itself. However, they are all more or less worth doing in their own right, and would do transit in Boston wonders. Can you imagine a fully modernized Green Line? A North Station-South Station connection? A circular line providing interconnection? It'd transform the city.
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Old March 13th, 2016, 07:01 AM   #569
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And can you imagine the disruption that would be caused by fully modernizing the Green Line? Right after the Big Dig? The Green Line is getting improvements bit-by-bit as it can handle it, and I'm happy to say that it is looking like a reasonably modern light rail system.

The North-South Rail Link, on the other hand, is 108 years overdue.
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From what I have heard they are working on modernizing the Green Line signal system but it is a very complex system to update because of the density of service and the requirement that they be able to run as many or more trains than they do now. The difficulty with that is that the number of trains and the interaction with the three street/median running branches makes it hard to keep a very reliable schedule on the surface and currently they haven't found a way to make a signal system that won't harm their ability to run the service they currently provide. The difficulty also comes from the fact that there are two tracked sections of the green line subway carrying trains from 4 branches at headways that get as low as a train every 1 to 2 minutes during rush hour.

Really the biggest issue facing the T in my opinion is to get the load on the Central Subway balanced better and to address the capacity crunch the at grade copley junction creates for the subway.
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A public transit fan's review of the new Government Center station (with photos):

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4th Quarter 2015 Daily Ridership numbers for Boston

Heavy Rail / MBTA (Red , Blue , Orange) - 569,200 (2015)
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Bus Ridership / MBTA Bus - 383,700 (2015) : 3.42%
Trolley Bus / MBTA - 4,400 (2015) : 2.03%
Light Rail / MBTA (Green line) - 186,200 (2015) : -13.57%
Ferries / MBTA - 4,600 (2015) : 5.93%
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I hear that the MBTA RTS buses will be staying in service longer than the NABI buses. Why is that?
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Keolis (commuter rail contractor) is considering installation of gates at downtown stations to combat fare evasion.



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Hows that going to work with Amtrak and what type of ticketing will they use? I assume non contact payment...
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Amtrak would need to introduce pre-screening like they do at New York Penn for customers boarding from the Amtrak/NJT departures area (upper level). At Penn, Amtrak passengers boarding from the LIRR exit concourse (lower level) do not have their tickets checked before boarding the train.

I am not sure how this would work in Boston South Station, where you can enter the tracks from the rail terminal side and from the intercity bus terminal side. Maybe all Amtrak passengers would have to go through the rail terminal? At Back Bay, there is a separate entrance to each platform. Not sure if there are multiple entrances to North Station platforms other than through the rail terminal.

Yes, someone could buy an Amtrak ticket and board an MBTA train instead. Not sure why anyone would want to do that.
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