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Old July 9th, 2011, 01:12 AM   #161
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I really can't understand WHY cars and trucks are allowed on streetcar lanes on such wide streets.
May be, it's "old fashionned" but entirely stupid.

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Old July 9th, 2011, 07:12 AM   #162
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I really can't understand WHY cars and trucks are allowed on streetcar lanes on such wide streets.
May be, it's "old fashionned" but entirely stupid.

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It's a lot more common throughout the world to see street cars/light rail share traffic with automobiles then for them to have a designated right of way. Also aside from that small section on Huntington/South Huntington, the green line is separated from vehicular traffic. Traffic is a nightmare between Bringham circle and Heath street, which is where it shares the road, converting the road to a single lane will do little to improve the green line however it will cause significant issues for vehicular traffic and the several bus lines that run down that stretch.
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Old July 9th, 2011, 07:20 AM   #163
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I really can't understand WHY cars and trucks are allowed on streetcar lanes on such wide streets.
May be, it's "old fashionned" but entirely stupid.

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They do have seperated ROW's...there are a few European systems like the one in Boston.... All Future lines will run on there on ROWs...

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Old July 9th, 2011, 03:11 PM   #164
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The shared traffic lane portion of the "E" Branch of the Green Line used to extend all the way to the Forrest Hills area, near the terminus of the Orange Line, which at that time operated on a viaduct along Washington Street. In 1985, the "E" Branch was truncated at Heath Street, which eliminated about 2.5 miles of shared traffic lane operation.
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Old September 12th, 2011, 08:04 PM   #165
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Old September 12th, 2011, 08:09 PM   #166
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Boston's transit system is pretty good. Unfortunately, the city's and State's so-called 'leadership' and the T's so-called 'management' remain sheer obstacles to making the transit system better.

What with the delay of the Green Line Extension to Medford until 2018 and treacherously evading the restoration of the Arborway branch.

If I may plug a website here: archboston.org is the best place to get a more detailed look at what makes Boston's transit system tick (or not).
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Old September 12th, 2011, 08:11 PM   #167
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As far as leadership customs goes, it appears Montreal might be following in Boston's footsteps:
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Old September 12th, 2011, 08:17 PM   #168
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I'm curious to see what the replacements are


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Old September 12th, 2011, 08:28 PM   #169
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Replacements are hard on my eyes

Queer, I'd have thought that the traffic signals (to at least the large, first intersection filmed above) would've been upgraded to yield priority to the T / trams, e.g.:-
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Old October 6th, 2011, 10:58 PM   #170
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Yay Boston. I take the Red Line every day from Harvard to Kendall and it's pretty solid for the most part.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 02:28 AM   #172
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It's nice knowing somebody else out there needn't appreciate a newer fleet ... for being 40 years old and running outdoors, that Type 1 fleet seems to operate just fine

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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:03 AM   #173
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Boston's transit system is pretty good. Unfortunately, the city's and State's so-called 'leadership' and the T's so-called 'management' remain sheer obstacles to making the transit system better.
There were times when Boston was a leading center of transit innovation.

Things seemed to have changed in the 80s/90s when the local politicians came up with that "Big Dig" boondoogle.

The result: Billions taken away away from local transit & so the impact on improving Boston's local transit has been minimal.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:32 AM   #174
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I visited Boston recently, and I was pretty impressed with the system in the city proper. The suburban transit was typically bad, but it worked. I can only imagine the transit system Boston would been able to build with the $14 Billion spent on burying the Central Artery. I was impressed with the space open by demolishing the elevated structure, though.
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Boston is one of those cities in the US where mass transit make the most sense, yet has trouble expanding or building new lines because all the transit money is being spent in sprawling sun belt cities like Charlotte and endless studies.

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Boston is one of those cities in the US where mass transit make the most sense, yet has trouble expanding or building new lines because all the transit money is being spent in sprawling sun belt cities like Charlotte.

Certainly that's part of the reason, although I think Charlotte's planned quite well.

But imagine what Boston's transit might be like today had that $14 billion dumped into the Big Dig had been spent & spread around better.

Not to pick on Boston. San Francisco's on the verge of embarking on a smaller scale boondoogle, with obvious stress already apparent upon the rest of the city's transit system.

You know what they say when the pols get to pick & your dealing with the Feds: Use it, or Lose it!

Given the chance & the bucks, the wise ways of the Pentagon always seems to become the model for transit.
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Old December 10th, 2011, 11:22 PM   #179
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Certainly that's part of the reason, although I think Charlotte's planned quite well.

But imagine what Boston's transit might be like today had that $14 billion dumped into the Big Dig had been spent & spread around better.

Not to pick on Boston. San Francisco's on the verge of embarking on a smaller scale boondoogle, with obvious stress already apparent upon the rest of the city's transit system.

You know what they say when the pols get to pick & your dealing with the Feds: Use it, or Lose it!

Given the chance & the bucks, the wise ways of the Pentagon always seems to become the model for transit.
While the Big Dig was certainly very expensive and it's debt is weighing down the MBTA, the project has gone a long way to improve things in central Boston. Getting to/from Logan International Airport is now a lot easier and smoother. The corridor down Atlantic Avenue is great and the heart of the city has been reconnected. The old elevated expressway cut right through and was flat out ugly.

For the most part, Boston has a solid transit system to only a few cities in the U.S. can top, namely New York and Chicago. You could live in Boston and not won a car, as I once did, and that's something you can't do in a lot of cities.
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While the Big Dig was certainly very expensive and it's debt is weighing down the MBTA, the project has gone a long way to improve things in central Boston. Getting to/from Logan International Airport is now a lot easier and smoother. The corridor down Atlantic Avenue is great and the heart of the city has been reconnected. The old elevated expressway cut right through and was flat out ugly.

Yeah, for sure, nobody's missed the Central Artery!

Seems though for what? $14 billion, they could have done a lot better connecting the commter rails.

And better yet, doing more for the surface transport & other more down to earth basics.
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