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Old August 30th, 2011, 09:12 PM   #101
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The revised 737 will be called the 737 MAX
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Old August 30th, 2011, 11:39 PM   #102
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I still wish Boeing had gone with the twin isle narrow body 797.
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 11:19 PM   #103
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Boeing came out with some 737 MAX news:
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Boeing updates 737 MAX Engine Configuration Status and Costumer Commitments

SEATTLE, Nov. 3, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) announced today that the 737 MAX program has selected a 68-inch fan diameter for the optimized engine design that will provide the lowest fuel burn and operating costs in the single-aisle market.

The 737 MAX continues to receive overwhelming acceptance from customers with more than 600 order commitments received to date from eight airlines, up from 496 airplanes from five airlines when the program launched in August.

The program is on schedule with internal configuration milestones of the new jet, with a continued focus on engagement with customers and partners to optimize the engine core architecture. Firm configuration for the airplane is scheduled for 2013. First flight for the 737 MAX is scheduled in 2016 with deliveries to customers beginning in 2017.

"The 737 is a more efficient, lighter design and requires less thrust than other airplanes in this class, which is important because weight and thrust have a significant effect on fuel efficiency and operating costs," said John Hamilton, 737 Chief Program Engineer. "With airlines facing rising fuel costs and weight-based costs equating to nearly 30 percent of an airline's operating costs, this optimized 68-inch fan design will offer a smaller, lighter and more fuel-efficient engine to ensure we maintain the current advantage we have over the competition."

The new 737 family will be powered by CFM International LEAP-1B engines. The new-engine variant will have 10-12 percent lower fuel burn than current 737s and a 7-percent operating cost advantage over the competition. The airplane will have the capacity for increased range while providing better fuel efficiency than today's already-efficient 737.

When compared to a fleet of 100 of today's most fuel-efficient airplanes, this new model will emit 277,000 fewer tons of CO2 and save nearly 175 million pounds of fuel per year, which translates into $85 million in cost savings. The airplane's fuel burn is expected to be 16 percent lower than our competitor's current offering and 4 percent lower than their future offering.

The Boeing 737 is the world's most popular and reliable commercial jet transport. The 737 family has won orders for more than 9,000 airplanes.

official press release by Boeing:
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2004
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 11:34 PM   #104
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So they went for the largest fan size which will still fit under the too low-mounted wing of the B737 design, and even therefore they have to raise the Nose Landing Gear by 6-8 inches. I'm not convinced that will be enough to really compete with the NEO although on the shorter or shortest missions the B737 might still keep it's slight SFC advantage. And the 600 commitments they are talking about still surprise me. From who besides AA are they coming. The NEO was launched without a single order, but has now surpassed 1,100 or 1,200 orders and commitments, and from every single one of them it is known who ordered them.

From Boeing we still have not heard any firm customer (if I'm not mistaken). So I am curious, who are those customers? Ryanair, Southwets, Alaska Airlines seem likely I guess, but without any of them confirming anything it is hard to see where the MAX's are going to.
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Old November 12th, 2011, 09:13 PM   #105
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Different companies different strategies.


On the eve of the Dubai Airshow Boeing came with a commitments update for the 737 MAX.

AIRSHOW-Boeing has 700 provisional commitments for 737 MAX
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...EA286820111112

"Boeing Commercial airplanes chief executive James Albaugh told reporters in Dubai he hoped to convert some of those commitments from nine customers into firm contracts by the end of this year or early 2012"


This increase of 100 commitments is probably related to this news:

Pegasus close to final decision on aircraft order
http://www.airfinancejournal.com/Art...Max-order.html

"Turkish low-cost carrier Pegasus Airlines is in the late stages of weighing up offers for re-engined aircraft from Airbus and Boeing. Serhan Ulga, CFO, Pegasus Airlines, says the company will place the order for more than one hundred narrowbodies by the end of this year."

Although the article still speaks of Boeing or Airbus, the URL of the link already gives the order to Boeing.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 11:52 PM   #107
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Boeing is having a strong sales day today.
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Boeing Statement on Lion Air Commitment for up to 380 737s

BALI, Indonesia, Nov. 17, 2011 – Boeing [NYSE: BA] confirms that Jakarta-based Lion Air today will sign a commitment for the airline to order 201 737 MAXs and 29 Next-Generation 737-900 ERs (extended range). The agreement also includes purchase rights for an additional 150 airplanes.

With 230 airplanes at a list price of $21.7 billion, this deal when finalized will be the largest commercial airplane order ever in Boeing’s history by both dollar volume and total number of airplanes.

U.S President Barack Obama is scheduled to witness the official announcement at a ceremony Friday morning at the East Asia Summit in Bali, Indonesia.
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SIA Firms Order for Eight More Boeing 777-300ERs

LOS ANGELES, Nov. 17, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Singapore Airlines has firmed up an order with Boeing for eight more B777-300ERs for use on medium and long-haul routes.

The order was announced in August when a letter of intent was inked
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Boeing, ACG Announce 737 MAX Commitment and Next-Generation 737 Order

SEATTLE, Nov. 17, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) and Aviation Capital Group (ACG) today announced the leasing company's commitment for 35 737 MAX airplanes and its firm order for 20 Next-Generation 737-800s. The Newport Beach, Calif.-based ACG is the first airplane leasing company to announce a commitment to the 737 MAX.

"ACG is a leader in the commercial airplane leasing industry and its intelligent fleet decisions have contributed to the company's 22 consecutive years of profitability," said Ray Conner, senior vice president of Sales and Customer Support for Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "The ACG leadership team understands the importance of having advanced, highly competitive airplanes to meet their customers' needs in today's marketplace. This commitment will provide ACG with airplanes featuring performance improvements and the innovative Boeing Sky Interior that will keep its airplanes at the leading edge of passenger comfort, efficient operations and reduced fuel consumption."

The new 737 MAX family will be powered by CFM International LEAP-1B engines. The new-engine variant will have a 7 percent operating cost advantage over tomorrow's competition. The airplane will have the capacity for increased range while providing better fuel efficiency than today's already-efficient Next-Generation 737.

The Next-Generation 737 family is the world's best-selling airplane, consistently delivering outstanding operational and financial performance across the widest range of missions. Today's Next-Generation 737-800, which can seat up to 189 passengers, can fly 260 nautical miles farther and consume 6 percent less fuel while carrying 12 more passengers than the competing model.

"The 737 is one of the prime building blocks of our portfolio strategy," said R. Stephen Hannahs, group managing director and chief executive officer of ACG. "These new 737NG and 737 MAX airplanes will continue our long-standing strategy of providing our customers the most fuel efficient, most capable airplanes with the lowest operating costs."

With today's announcement, ACG has ordered or committed to a total of 151 Boeing airplanes made up of 111 Next-Generation 737s, 35 737 MAXs and five 787 Dreamliners. This includes 15 Next-Generation 737s for which ACG acquired delivery positions from another airline in 2006.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 02:17 AM   #108
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They are having a very strong sales week. Good for them and their suppliers, and of course for their customers.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 07:55 AM   #109
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...and for those who live close to their factories.

I live about 10 miles from the Renton factory, where the 737s are put together.
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Does someone have any detailed news about the Boeing - Indonesia record contract deal (230 planes)? How many 787 , 777 or other types ?
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No 787 or 777, only 737Max.
It's not a proper order yet by the way, the contract is not signed, and some financial newspaper were a bit perplex about this contract, knowing that nobody actually know anything about the financial state of Lion air.
This carrier is on the European Union's black list and also on the United states's one.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 09:05 AM   #112
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Yesterday there was some more news about the order.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...r-737s-365094/

It will be partly by the US Export-Import Bank and other commercial banks.

It's probably also a deal that will see deliveries over a long period, if the costs are spread over 10 years the financing already becomes more manageable.

And since the 737s are not able to fly to Europe or the USA it doesn't matter if the airline (along with most Indonesian carriers) is blacklisted there. These planes will mainly be used for the domestic market but also for regional expansion.


But it will be interesting when it will Boeing will list this order on it's orders webpage.
http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

The 737 Max cannot officially be ordered yet, but the 29 extra 737-900 ER that is also in the order should be added straight away when the contracts are officially signed.
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And since the 737s are not able to fly to Europe or the USA it doesn't matter if the airline (along with most Indonesian carriers) is blacklisted there. These planes will mainly be used for the domestic market but also for regional expansion.
I just found it interesting to notice it, but indeed, now you tell me that i realise that almost all the Indonesian carriers are blacklisted.
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Boeing's Albaugh upbeat on 787 production, 737 MAX orders

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The Boeing Co. expects to announce in the near future more commitments for its re-engined 737 MAX jet, a company executive said Wednesday.

Boeing's Jim Albaugh was upbeat in his predictions for the company's commercial airplanes division while speaking at an aerospace conference in New York on Wednesday. Albaugh's remarks were webcast.

The company already has 700 order commitments from nine customers for its refreshed 737, Albaugh said. The jet maker has "additional commitments that you're going to hear very soon." He also expects Boeing to begin converting those tentative requests into firm orders shortly.

Albaugh re-iterated Boeing's plan to reach a production rate of 10 aircraft monthly by 2013 on its popular 787 program. Boeing is working at a rate of 2.5 787s monthly with plans to increase by one aircraft monthly by early spring, he said. By the end of 2012, Boeing plans to produce five 787s monthly.

That doesn't include the number of 787s Boeing build at its North Charleston facility in South Carolina. Boeing opened its second Dreamliner final assembly factory there earlier this year. Albaugh is pleased with the progress at the company's North Charleston site.

"They were scheduled to deliver the first airplane out of there in June (2012) ... I wouldn't be surprised if they deliver it earlier," he said.

Boeing delivered its first 787 jet to Japan's All Nippon Airways in September. The company has more than 800 orders for its fuel-efficient, mostly composite jet.

After struggling with the 787's global supply chain early on, Boeing is closely monitoring its partners to ensure they can handle production increases, Albaugh said.

"We are drilling down into every work cell to make sure they're ready," he said.

Boeing is still working to get Federal Aviation Administration approval for its 787s powered with General Electric engines. The jet maker received certification on 787s powered by Rolls-Royce engines this summer.

"We'll be delivering to (Japan Airlines) the first GE-engine plane sometime after the first of the year," Albaugh said.
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Boeing Labor Deal May Avoid Strikes, Help End 787 Complaint

Nov. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Boeing Co.’s tentative contract agreement with the Machinists union to keep building the 737 jet in Washington state may help resolve a U.S. labor complaint against the company over the 787 Dreamliner.

The Machinists’ deal today assures nearly a decade of labor peace by extending the agreement four more years. If members approve the contract, union leaders will tell the National Labor Relations Board that complaints over Boeing’s relocation of some Dreamliner work after four strikes since 1989 are satisfied.

“This is an extraordinary development,” said Howard Rubel, an analyst with Jefferies & Co. “It has been almost a tradition that the union strike to get a ‘better deal’ at the end of each contract. The potential for this deal could enable Boeing to improve its competitiveness and clearly shows a genuine effort at finding solutions to vexing problems.”

The labor board accused the company in April of illegal retaliation after Machinists complained about Boeing’s 2009 establishment of a production line in South Carolina, which forbids requiring union membership as a condition of employment. The planemaker said this year it would also consider sites outside of the existing 737 assembly plant in Renton for production of the new MAX variant starting in 2017.

If union members ratify the contract next week, Tom Wroblewski, president of Machinists District 751, said he would meet with the NLRB “to inform them that we believe all our grievances with the Boeing Co. will be resolved.”

NLRB Case

The labor board views the Machinists’ agreement as a “very significant and hopeful development,” Acting General Counsel Lafe Solomon said in an e-mailed statement, adding that he’d be in discussion with all the parties about the next steps in the process.

Nancy Cleeland, a spokeswoman for the board, said the complaint won’t be automatically dropped and declined to speculate on whether it would be.

Under the proposal, Machinists would get a 2 percent wage increase each year of the contract. They’d also get a new performance-based incentive program, their pensions would be preserved along with retirees’ medical benefits, and they’d get a $5,000 ratification bonus.

Puget Sound

Boeing is hiring about 100 Machinists a week as it boosts production by about 60 percent over three years to whittle down a backlog that now stretches to nearly 4,000 aircraft. If the Chicago-based company had chosen another state for the 737 MAX plant, however, the Renton facility could have shut down within a decade, leaving just the wide-body jet plant north of Seattle.

“Landing the MAX means there’s a stronger future for Puget Sound,” said Connie Kelliher, a Machinists spokeswoman in Seattle. “If we hadn’t gotten it here, we would have been left dying on the vine. It would have been a clear signal the other way.”

The deal requires Machinists to pay more for their health care, one of the reasons for the 2008 strike that eventually led to the labor complaint.

Kelliher said union representatives had already gone out to the shop floors to promote the deal. “The benefits are only good if you’re on the payroll to collect them,” she said. “What are the best benefits in the world worth if the work goes away?”

Boeing promised not to discuss the details of the plan until tomorrow, to give Machinists’ leaders time to speak with their members about it, said Tim Healy, a spokesman.

Workforce Stability

That marks a change from three years ago, when the company aired radio spots and sent e-mails to bypass union leadership and communicate directly with workers, something that riled the labor group.

“We’ve had strikes three out of the last four times we’ve gone to the table with the union,” Boeing Commercial Airplanes President Jim Albaugh said at a Credit Suisse conference in New York today, before news of the deal was announced. “It was a lose-lose for both of us.”

The company has “worked very hard” to make the union understand the “realities of the marketplace,” including new competition from China and Canada, Albaugh said. Boeing executives, in turn, listened to the labor group on issues regarding stability of the workforce, he said.

Albaugh said in an interview yesterday that the plant site decision would be made based on “workforce, it’s the cost of doing business now and in the future, it’s surety of production, capital investment, business climate, access to engineering and production talent, and the investment you have to make.”
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By Jon Ostrower on November 30, 2011 1:39 PM

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Just breaking now, The Seattle Times reports that the IAM and Boeing have reached a sweeping deal to place the 737 Max final assembly line in Renton, having secured a new four-year contract as well as a settlement of the National Labor Relations Board complaint against the company's second 787 final assembly line in Charleston.

UPDATE 2:28 PM: The IAM and Boeing have confirmed the deal, saying that once a December 7 ratification vote takes place, the union will instruct the Obama administration that its grievances have been resolved and the NLRB dispute will be dropped.

UPDATE 4:16 PM: Reactions are pouring in from around Washington, from the State's two US Senators, the Mayor of Renton, Snohomish County Executive ( PDF) and SPEEA.

My first pass at the story:

The union leadership has recommended its members approve the new four-year contract, which includes a $5,000 ratification bonus, a 2% cost of living wage increase each of the four years on the contract, pensions for new hires, new health care plans and preservation of medical benefits for retirees.

"Boeing has assessed the business case for locating production of the 737 MAX in Renton in light of the economics of a proposed new labor agreement and the company is prepared to locate 737 MAX production in Renton provided the economics contained in that proposal are achieved," said Boeing
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Boeing Rolls Out First Factory-Complete 737 At Higher Rate

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RENTON, Wash., Dec. 5, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) rolled out its first factory-complete Next-Generation 737 at the production rate of 35 airplanes a month on Dec. 4. The new 737-800 was towed to nearby Renton Field where Boeing conducts functional testing and first flights for all new airplanes. Though the airplane still must undergo testing and painting, the milestone represents a major step in demonstrating that Boeing is on track to achieve its announced rate increase of the popular jetliner to 35 a month in early January when it delivers the airplane to Norwegian Air Shuttle.

"The team took lessons from past rate increases and said, 'We can do this better,' and all indications are that they have," said Beverly Wyse, vice president and general manager of the 737 program. "We owe a special thanks to our partners in Boeing Supplier Management and Fabrication who have kept shortages at an unprecedented low level for this stage in the rate process."

Teams have been preparing for more than a year in some cases. An example of early preparation can be seen in the production line where employees install electrical systems into the newly built wing boxes. The team eliminated a line where employees worked on both left-hand and right-hand wings and moved those employees to extended lines where they were dedicated to either the right-hand or left-hand wings, removing variables that slowed down production. Additionally, in August, improvements to efficiency such as arranging the work and the work environment so that employees can more easily complete their tasks supports a rate of up to 42 airplanes a month.

Boeing has taken a three-fold approach to prepare for the rate increases on the 737 program. The company is making production processes more efficient by working with employee process improvement teams; increasing the production capacity with capital investments and making the site footprint more efficient by moving some production areas and expanding others; and decommissioning outdated equipment.

Boeing will increase the 737 rate to 38 airplanes a month in the second quarter of 2013 and to 42 airplanes a month in the first half of 2014.
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Boeing B-52 CONECT System completes Flight Test Milestone
  • Program poised for low-rate initial production authorization
  • New network communication system allows for future upgrades

WICHITA, Kan., Dec. 12, 2011 -- Today Boeing [NYSE: BA] announced completion of all flight testing needed for the B-52 Combat Network Communications Technology (CONECT) program to receive low rate initial production (LRIP) authorization from the U.S. Air Force. The flight test program was conducted at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., by Boeing and the Air Force.

“Completion of the LRIP flight test phase means CONECT is ready to be reviewed by our customer for initial production authorization,” said Scot Oathout, B-52 program director. “CONECT increases B-52 operational effectiveness by providing improved mission flexibility, increased situational awareness and new network-centric capabilities. In addition, CONECT paves the way for easier integration of future upgrades.”

Milestone C authorization for low-rate initial production is expected in mid-2012.

The CONECT modification provides the ability to change a mission, as well as change the target of a weapon, while the B-52 is in flight. The system provides increased situational awareness for B-52 crews by adding several communication data links and full-color LCD displays with real-time intelligence feeds overlaid on moving maps. CONECT also enables future B-52 improvements with its onboard, high-speed network.

A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Defense, Space & Security is one of the world's largest defense, space and security businesses specializing in innovative and capabilities-driven customer solutions, and the world’s largest and most versatile manufacturer of military aircraft. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing Defense, Space & Security is a $32 billion business with 63,000 employees worldwide. Follow us on Twitter: @BoeingDefense.

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Boeing to Offer up to 33-Minute ETOPS on 777
  • Allows more direct flights, burns less fuel, emits less carbon dioxide into atmosphere

EVERETT, Wash., Dec. 12, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) announced today it has received type-design approval from the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) for up to 330-minute extended operations (ETOPS) for its 777 fleet.

The authorization allows 777 customers who purchase or already operate 777-300ER (extended range), 777-200LR (longer range), 777 Freighter and 777-200ER models equipped with General Electric engines to fly up to 330 minutes from an alternate airport. FAA approval for the 777-200ER equipped with Rolls-Royce and Pratt & Whitney engines is expected to follow over the next few months.

"Boeing twin-engine jets have flown more than 7 million ETOPS flights since 1985, and more than 120 Boeing operators fly more than 50,000 ETOPS flights each month," said Larry Loftis, vice president and general manager 777 program. "This is the logical continuation of the Boeing philosophy of point-to-point service. Passengers want to minimize their overall travel time. This is one more step in that direction."

The first airline to purchase the new longer ETOPS option is Air New Zealand. Air New Zealand completed the first 240 ETOPS flight earlier this month from Los Angeles to Auckland, N.Z.

"What this means is that the airplane is able to fly a straighter route between the city pairs and that's good for the environment," said Capt. David Morgan, chief pilot for Air New Zealand. "Less fuel is burned and less carbon dioxide is emitted into the atmosphere. It's also good for customers because flights are potentially shorter and passengers could arrive sooner at their destinations."

The new FAA approval allows airlines that operate routes in the south Pacific, over the North Pole, and from Australia to South America and southern Africa to fly the most direct routes.

An increasing number of operators already are providing ETOPS service to their passengers. For example, 93 percent of 777, 50 percent of 767 and 33 percent of 757 operators fly ETOPS routes. Two-engine ETOPS routes are more than 60 minutes from an alternate airport.

The 777 fleet has flown more than 2 million ETOPS flights since its debut in June 1995. Fifty-three 777 operators fly more than 22,000 ETOPS flights per month.

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And the big news of today. The 1st firm 737 MAX order by Southwest Airlines, they will also become the launch customer in 2017.

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Boeing 737 MAX Logs First Firm Order from Launch Customer Southwest Airlines

DALLAS, Dec. 13, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) and Southwest Airlines today announced a firm order for 150 fuel-efficient 737 MAX airplanes. Southwest is the first customer to finalize an order for the 737 MAX and becomes the launch customer for the new-engine variant. The Dallas-based carrier also ordered 58 Next-Generation 737s.

The firm order is the largest in Boeing history both in dollar value, nearly $19 billion at list prices, and the number of airplanes. It supports Southwest's initiative to modernize its all-Boeing fleet, the world's largest fleet of 737s. As the 737 MAX launch customer, Southwest will take delivery of the first airplane when it enters service in 2017.

"Southwest is a special Boeing customer and has been a true partner in the evolution of the 737," said Boeing Commercial Airplanes President and CEO Jim Albaugh. "Throughout our 40-year relationship, our two companies have collaborated to launch the 737-300, 737-500 and the Next-Generation 737-700 – affirming the 737 as the world's preferred single-aisle airplane. As launch customer for the 737 MAX, Southwest, Boeing and the 737 continue that legacy."

The 737 MAX is the new-engine variant of the world's best-selling airplane and builds on the strengths of today's Next-Generation 737. The new-engine variant, powered by CFM International LEAP-1B engines, reduces fuel burn and CO2 emissions by an additional 10-12 percent over today's most fuel-efficient single-aisle airplane. It will have the lowest operating costs in the single-aisle segment with a 7 percent advantage over tomorrow's competition.

"Today's environment demands that we become more fuel efficient and environmentally friendly, and as the launch Customer of the Boeing 737 MAX, we have accomplished both," said Gary Kelly, Southwest Airlines Chairman, President, and CEO. "We are teaming up with our friends from Boeing to lead the industry in a way that makes both our shareholders and our Customers proud to associate with Southwest Airlines. Today's announcement will allow us to maintain our position as a low-cost provider in the years ahead."

This order continues the growing momentum for the 737 MAX. With the Southwest order, the 737 MAX has orders and commitments for more than 900 airplanes from 13 customers, while the Next-Generation 737 family has won orders for more than 6,600 airplanes and Boeing has delivered more than 3,800.
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