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Old October 23rd, 2010, 09:38 PM   #601
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One eigth? wow that's pitiful
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Old October 24th, 2010, 08:31 AM   #602
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Most of Australia's railroads operate on the same technical standards (track gauge, coupling, braking, loading gauge, etc) as those in North America. Note that many of the locomotives shown in those images are USA designs.

Remember that standard European railroad couplings have only about one eighth of the rated strength as those used in North America and Australia (also China).

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wow some interesting facts there. How long would the biggest European trains be?

Some more Aussie trains.

Melbourne




Coal trains in NSW


Melbourne




Car hit at crossing in Melbourne


Passenger trains in Melbourne
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Old October 29th, 2010, 09:31 AM   #603
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Some Australian Freight Trains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flx-divbVVw

XPT and Xplorer Trains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd4we8dEG2k

An Oscar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IjLllIASoU

The New Waratah Trains for Sydney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HYeeruZY7Q

The V set
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B0QP48Ncjw
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Old October 29th, 2010, 01:55 PM   #604
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nice videos! I specially like the Oscar trainset, who's the manufacturer?
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Old October 29th, 2010, 11:22 PM   #605
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United Group Rail built the Oscars at thier factory at Broadmeadow in Newcastle.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 06:27 PM   #606
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wow some interesting facts there. How long would the biggest European trains be?
I don't offhand know the exact figures, but I seem to recall a general maximum freight train weight of about 3200t and length of 1.2km on lines using European-style 'buffer and chain' coupling. Due to their very tiny tunnels, normal European loading gauge is also very small, barely larger than the profile of a standard lorry.

Converting their system to AAR couplings and Westinghouse air braking to allow for the train lengths and weights found in North America, China, Australia, etc, would require re-scaling EVERYTHING, too, as siding and yard track lengths, tunnel clearances, electrical power systems and so forth are all designed for those short, light trains. Only the English Channel Tunnel is scaled anywhere close to what would be required.

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Old October 30th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #607
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Passenger trains look small (the number of coaches). But they look very good. I was wondering which is the biggest hub of passenger trains in Australia? is it melbourne?
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Old October 31st, 2010, 01:12 AM   #608
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I think it would either be Southern Cross in Melbourne or Sydney Central.
Problably Sydney Central as it has more direct links to other state Capitals than any other station.

From Sydney Central there are direct trains to:
Cenberra
Melbourne
Brisbane
Adelaide
Perth

From Melbourne its only direct trains to:
Sydney
Adelaide
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Old October 31st, 2010, 02:31 PM   #609
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I don't thin these trains make for any difference as considering distances in Australia they are most probably used only for recreational trips (who in the world would be insane enough to do a Perth-Sydney train route as a business trip? ) except maybe the Sydney to Canberra line.

I would vote for Sydney Central as the station with highest passenger numbers followed closely by Flinders St
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Old November 1st, 2010, 04:19 AM   #610
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Some business people use the Sydney-Melbourne and v.v XPT trains for business as they book a sleeper and the train puts them in the centre of town the next morning. With current departure times they can have dinner in town before boarding and breakfast in town the next morning.
I know of a number of people who prefer to travel that way rather than get up at 4:30am to fly.
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Old November 1st, 2010, 04:47 AM   #611
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Meh, the proportion of business travellers who take the train would be very very tiny. Otherwise the train would come more often than once every 12 hours, and the flights would take off less often than once every 15 minutes.

An economy class fare is $110 on the train, which is the same cost as a flight. A sleeper is $240 which could get me a Sunday evening flight and a hotel room for an extra night instead.

Until we can get a serious HSR network built, the XPT will always be a useless service for the majority of the travelling population, and cities will only serve as the hubs for their own suburban and nearby regional networks.
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Old November 27th, 2010, 09:05 AM   #612
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Some youtube videos of a Waratah Movement which occoured today.
Thw Waratah is Sydneys new Suburban train, scheduled to enter service in April 2011.

Awaba - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chePGm-JO_Q
Warnervale - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stbcpGAmcSM
Ourimbah - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvX3zdr1pdc
Cowan - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG_3I2g-Sx4
Normanhurst - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4fqDYwgEoQ

Enjoy
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 11:47 PM   #613
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Just got back from Brisbane (Roma Street) to get photos of the XPT (Direct train from Sydney) arriving - you guys might appreciate this.


Arrival (Only 32 minutes late)

Full length of the train




Brisbane suburban trains:


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Old December 23rd, 2010, 02:53 PM   #614
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I think it would either be Southern Cross in Melbourne or Sydney Central.
Problably Sydney Central as it has more direct links to other state Capitals than any other station.

From Sydney Central there are direct trains to:
Cenberra
Melbourne
Brisbane
Adelaide
Perth

From Melbourne its only direct trains to:
Sydney
Adelaide
Sydney to Perth via Adelaide. It's not a direct train to Perth.

Brisbane has direct trains to Sydney only, but has a vast intrastate network linking to it.

Direct from Roma Street

Cairns
Longreach
Rockhampton
Bundaberg
Gympie (North)*
Charleville
Varsity Lakes*

and

Sydney

* 'City' Interurban service
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Old December 26th, 2010, 02:14 AM   #615
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An economy class fare is $110 on the train, which is the same cost as a flight.
CountryLink have lowered Sydney-Melbourne and Sydney-Brisbane fares to $69 one way for economy.
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Old December 26th, 2010, 01:49 PM   #617
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I don't offhand know the exact figures, but I seem to recall a general maximum freight train weight of about 3200t and length of 1.2km on lines using European-style 'buffer and chain' coupling. Due to their very tiny tunnels, normal European loading gauge is also very small, barely larger than the profile of a standard lorry.

Converting their system to AAR couplings and Westinghouse air braking to allow for the train lengths and weights found in North America, China, Australia, etc, would require re-scaling EVERYTHING, too, as siding and yard track lengths, tunnel clearances, electrical power systems and so forth are all designed for those short, light trains. Only the English Channel Tunnel is scaled anywhere close to what would be required.

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You are too optimistic, european standard gauge trains never exceed 750 m and on most lines even 550-650 m, with weight usually not exceeding 2000 t on mountain lines. Axle load rarely exceed 22.5 t. Loading gauge on a lot of lines in Southern Europe and the United Kingdom don't allow high cube containers, even on standard low floor wagons. There are obviously exceptions with 6000 t trains, or trains 1000 m long, but they are rare. This is partly compensed by higher frequencies, 5 to 10 trains per hour per direction on some lines.

Broad gauge trains running in Eastern Europe are bigger, but not as much as American ones.

Another problem are the three main gauges, plus Irish gauge (which is on an island, so it is less problematic), plus very few narrow gauge lines.
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