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Old July 19th, 2015, 06:22 PM   #741
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Old July 21st, 2015, 10:25 PM   #742
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How come the Victorian government hasn't used the opportunity to electrify the corridor between Southern Cross and Geelong? In one of the posted videos an official talks about the effort made to reduce the environmental impact of the new railway line which comes as a surprise given that fact...
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Old July 21st, 2015, 10:26 PM   #743
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How come the Victorian government hasn't used the opportunity to electrify the corridor between Southern Cross and Geelong? In one of the posted videos an official talks about the effort put to reduce the environmental impact of the new railway line which comes as a surprise given that fact...
Good question, especially as it is electrified all the way to outer suburban Melbourne...
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 02:30 PM   #744
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Is there sufficient demand for a HSR service between Sydney and Melbourne.
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 05:56 PM   #745
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How come the Victorian government hasn't used the opportunity to electrify the corridor between Southern Cross and Geelong? In one of the posted videos an official talks about the effort made to reduce the environmental impact of the new railway line which comes as a surprise given that fact...
Honestly no idea. It seems Victoria has very little electrification outside of Melbourne unlike Queensland and New South Wales.
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 06:03 PM   #746
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Is there sufficient demand for a HSR service between Sydney and Melbourne.
A never ending debate but I'd argue that yes there is. Simply put, Sydney to Melbourne is the 5th busiest air route in the world (+8 million) and consider also that Canberra lies between them and you have a good sounding case.

Others would argue that there's a lack of medium sized cities to sustain patronage and construction costs are very high here too. The current government is at least working on reserving a corridor.
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Old July 23rd, 2015, 08:26 PM   #747
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Old August 30th, 2015, 01:41 AM   #754
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Any plans to extend Electrification to the rest of the VLine system?
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Old August 30th, 2015, 06:21 AM   #756
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More than be the japanese trains?
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More than be the japanese trains?
About the same i think. 160kmh in service, 210kmh in trials
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Old August 30th, 2015, 12:02 PM   #758
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Any plans to extend Electrification to the rest of the VLine system?
No in short.

Geelong might be worth doing, and Melton would transfer to the Metro network.
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Old September 6th, 2015, 02:10 AM   #759
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Overnight XPT CLK621 Sydney - Melbourne

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Departure Sydney [Central] : 20.32
Arrival Melbourne [Southern Cross] : 07.25
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Overnight XPT CLK621 Sydney - Melbourne
Class : Economy Seat
Car E Seat 9
Departure Sydney [Central] : 20.32
Arrival Melbourne [Southern Cross] : 07.25
Time : 10h 53m
That's 7 minutes short of 11 hours. Both major cities are in the same time zone.
The rail distance is 962 kilometers, or 598 miles.
Therefore the average speed of the train is 88.25 km/h, or 55 mph.
There is presently only two roundtrips (4 trains in total) per day between these two large metros. The day trip takes about a half hour longer than the night train per the timetables.

Averaging 250 km/h, it would take a HSR train 3 hours and 51 minutes to travel that far.

If you consider the train crews lifestyle, wishing to go home every night to be with family, an almost 4 hour trip is much too long for a regular 8 hour work day. It would be very tight, when considering startup, turnaround, and shutdown duties for a 10 hour workday. I don't think train crews working a regular longer workday would be acceptable to most passengers when it comes to safety.

The present demand for rail services between these two cities wouldn't support the idea to electrify the rail line, much less improve it for much higher speeds. Yes, one could make an argument that higher speeds and more trains may change the demand for rail services. I would counter the amount of funds needed to improve the rail corridor's speed would be better spent providing better local services than on an intercity train.
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