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Old September 6th, 2015, 11:29 AM   #761
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How many people travel by air between these two cities? If a HSR line were to be built you can assume about 2/3 of those using rail instead.

Train crew working hours is not an issue whatsoever same as it is not an issue for transcontinental flights. Plus for trains it's possible to change crew at midpoint if desirable.
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Old September 7th, 2015, 12:04 AM   #762
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And if the train does 300 kph instead of 250? That's not unreasonable given current technology. It also comes out to about 3 hours 12 minutes one way. That's less than six hours 30 minutes total. With 90 minutes for start-up and shut-down, you can have a reasonable work-day.

And, of course, you can have separate yard crews taking the train between the station and the yards. Then, all the road crew has to do is sign in and take the train from Sydney to Melbourne, sign off at the destination, and take the next train back.
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Old September 8th, 2015, 02:17 AM   #763
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How many people travel by air between these two cities? If a HSR line were to be built you can assume about 2/3 of those using rail instead.
Approx 8 million per year, it is the 5th busiest air route in the world and 3rd for number of aircraft movements. Judging by that, I think there is a strong case for HSR here, especially if there was a stop in Canberra.
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Old September 8th, 2015, 09:48 PM   #764
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And if the train does 300 kph instead of 250? That's not unreasonable given current technology. It also comes out to about 3 hours 12 minutes one way. That's less than six hours 30 minutes total. With 90 minutes for start-up and shut-down, you can have a reasonable work-day.
250 km/h average is a very good. Only handful of lines around the world match or exceed that. I looked at the map and the approximate distance between Sydney and Melbourne via Canberra is ca 850-900 km (on a new line). That's a bit less than 4 h travel time on a high quality line and then the share of train and plain would be ca 50/50, BUT it would be better than that for travel to Canberra from either city.

Anyone all that is on paper, doesn't seem like Australians have a great appetite for that kind of capital expenditure.
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Old September 11th, 2015, 02:59 AM   #765
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Vline to Lara Station, Victoria

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Old September 18th, 2015, 08:19 AM   #767
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Australia's Victorian Government is planning to implement a series of initiatives to boost capacity and reliability of services on the Ballarat line, in the wake of significant patronage growth, and network changes.

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Old September 20th, 2015, 02:31 PM   #768
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Old November 6th, 2015, 05:33 PM   #769
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Intercity & Regional Trains


Southern Cross Station HDR by bramt, on Flickr


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So to kick this thread back up, here's a nice little view of mine from Southern Cross Station in Melbourne to Ballarat. Good showcase of summer in rural Victoria.

Every station stop en route is showcased.

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Is this where posts on the grade separations in Melbourne go?
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Old April 14th, 2016, 02:28 PM   #777
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Australia's Melbourne City Loop to get $101m upgrade

Latest Update on Australia's Melbourne City Loop

The Government of Victoria in Australia has announced vital upgrades to the City Loop, a mostly-underground, partly surface-level and partly elevated subway and rail system around the central business district (CBD) of Melbourne.

The A$134m ($101m) safety and security upgrade will take place over the next three years, and make the City Loop safer for the 130,000 passengers that use it every day.

It is reported that the A$11bn ($8.3bn) Melbourne Metro Rail Project will unlock congestion on the network by building a new cross-city tunnel, with new CBD stations connected directly to the City Loop. The works will ensure passengers can get to work on time, and home safe and sound again at the end of the day.
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Grade separation works in Blackburn. Taken a few days ago.

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How does the signaling system work in Australia ? Very inspired from the US standard (as
might be indicated by the stacks of round shaped signals in the picture above) or something different ?
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