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Old August 21st, 2011, 02:08 PM   #181
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The render instantly brings Trump Chicago to my mind.
Trump Chicago is a much better tower than this is. That is not a box.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 02:14 PM   #182
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the world trade center was also to heigh for the skyline in lower manhattan, i think with such less space they will build just a box. its not the most nice building but i would be happy if they will build it.

a height from 433m is just crazy!

thats a big chance
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Old August 21st, 2011, 02:52 PM   #183
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When do you think they are likely to show of official renders and begin to build?
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Old August 21st, 2011, 02:54 PM   #184
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It is only proposed yet.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 02:57 PM   #185
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It is only proposed yet.
Ahh ok. When do you think it will be approved... By next year?
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Old August 21st, 2011, 03:09 PM   #186
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Ahh ok. When do you think it will be approved... By next year?
I have no clue. Maybe Robert Walpole knows.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 03:12 PM   #187
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i for myself hope that THIS design will never be built.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 04:59 PM   #188
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I have no clue. Maybe Robert Walpole knows.
I'm pretty sure this is an as of right development, meaning it doesn't require any approvals.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 05:12 PM   #189
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I'm pretty sure this is an as of right development, meaning it doesn't require any approvals.
That's correct.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 06:26 PM   #190
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I'm pretty sure this is an as of right development, meaning it doesn't require any approvals.
Thank you, I didn't know that.
As of rights still requires a safety approval and an air rights check though doesn't it?
Other than most proposals which requires approval through the city board.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 08:19 PM   #191
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As a skyscraper enthusiast, 433m(1421ft)in NY is just so much, and I want it BAD. But the design is just a box, and nowadays, boxes aren't really worthy of dominating skylines. However we must remember: The Twin Towers were boxes. They were gigantic boxes almost as tall as this thing (but a lot wider). At first they were hated as well, but they soon became icons. I think if this thing looks good enough (basically all that's left that could make it look good is the cladding), it could become a wonderful icon. My two cents.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 09:35 PM   #192
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they became icons not for their size but what happened to them. unless that happens again to this tower(hope not) this wont become an icon. im hoping there is time for design review....all it needs to be at least remotely acceptable is a different clad.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 09:37 PM   #193
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The Twin Towers were icons long before 9/11. That's why they were targeted.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 09:38 PM   #194
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I dont mind the tower and think it will look ok... I know it's a box but basing it on that one render which isn't really detailed is a bit far. Although I suppose they could of at least done something to it..l weather it be an indent in it, a spire on top.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 10:11 PM   #195
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they became icons not for their size but what happened to them. unless that happens again to this tower(hope not) this wont become an icon. im hoping there is time for design review....all it needs to be at least remotely acceptable is a different clad.
Like someone else said, the Twins were icons long before they were destroyed. But just became much larger icons after they were destroyed. But the point of my post was to say that at first many people didn't like them. After a while they, they became loved.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 11:10 PM   #196
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Folks, this building, if it'll be 433m, could become the second most beautiful building in the world second only to the Willis Tower. Sorry, but I am absolutely obsessed with boxes
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I like boxes, too. If they have a good cladding.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 11:23 PM   #198
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well the twins also had a few more things to give them that iconic status. like being tallest in the world. and being twins. this tower has none of those. i don't see this becoming iconic at all.
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 12:14 AM   #199
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The twins were also iconic because they were a part of the world TRADE center. A symbol of freedom and the prosperity of free enterprise. It's the reason al Qaeda took it out as well.
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 12:19 AM   #200
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which is just another reason this one wont be iconic
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