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Old May 17th, 2012, 08:38 PM   #2081
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The only thing that would make this building any more ugly, would be if they added more height
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Old May 17th, 2012, 09:03 PM   #2082
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should'nt 432 park ave be taller than the twins, when the twins 1374 and 432 p-a is 1398?

On this graphic it is top out at 420 not 426
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Old May 17th, 2012, 09:07 PM   #2083
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yes the data of 420m roof height is wrong and should be 426m, so the diagram is slightly off.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 09:47 PM   #2084
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Now that the sun is lighting the right side you can see that the have set rebar and what looks like a footing pour on this side as well...little bit different structure as these appear to set directly in the bedrock. Clearly columns are being formed along north side to support the retail structure.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #2085
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LOL, I just saw something like a water hydrant or pipe explosion on the cam at the furthest side. i wonder what it could have been
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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:49 PM   #2086
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This building has a grid/frame type exoskeleton/facade that protrudes well a good distance away from the windows, correct? If yes, then will this be difficult to install the windows, more than a typical building/facade? Sounds like a unique engineering and construction challenge
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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:55 PM   #2087
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LOL, I just saw something like a water hydrant or pipe explosion on the cam at the furthest side. i wonder what it could have been
I saw similar event like this on the right side yesterday...water shooting 20' in the air...must have some high pressure hoses...probably for drills they are using on the rock.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:58 PM   #2088
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nah, what water there? I saw such event few days ago in the corner where columns are being constructed now. I bet it was blasting again.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 11:17 PM   #2089
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Sorry...no more blasting...Just water
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Old May 17th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #2090
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oh, you saw it live, not on cam?

on cam dirt may look like a water. But then again i haven't seen what Kanto had today so it might look different.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 11:32 PM   #2091
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I saw similar event like this on the right side yesterday...water shooting 20' in the air...must have some high pressure hoses...probably for drills they are using on the rock.
This was not 20 feet. It was at least 30 feet
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Old May 17th, 2012, 11:55 PM   #2092
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I'll say it again...water high pressure water

No blasting going on...explosives truck is gone...blast blankets are gone...when they blast cam is off and people are vacated...and you see maybe plume of dust...this I have seen live and felt!

I go by at least twice a day...but the event I saw was on the cam and people were all around you can see the hose...

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Old May 18th, 2012, 12:11 AM   #2093
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This does not deserve a title as the tallest in NYC let alone in the top 10 of the United States
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Old May 18th, 2012, 12:53 AM   #2095
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This does not deserve a title as the tallest in NYC let alone in the top 10 of the United States
Ohh why not it is simple math tallest building in the U.S. is willis tallest in N.Y. for know is 1wtc but soon it is 432 park avenue. 426 meters compare to 419 says it all

Is it a law that no building can go above 1wtc
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Old May 18th, 2012, 01:00 AM   #2096
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Call me a troll, but this building has no iconic look to it. No there isn't a law but this building is 10x more unattractive than One WTC, don't even try to defend that.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 01:24 AM   #2097
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Don't forget what has been told before in these threads.
You can't have a city full of unique building all standing out like Dubai in New York.
You need to have minimalist boring buildings, they only make the special buildings like Hearts Tower, One57, WTC complex stand out.
But of course you could say any building above let's say 300 meters should have a unique and outstanding design.
If you look at it that way this is a really bad design.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 01:38 AM   #2098
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True, I like it for the city, just not the height
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Old May 18th, 2012, 01:45 AM   #2099
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I wonder what will be in between the windows, stone or aluminum casing?
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Old May 18th, 2012, 01:50 AM   #2100
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Do you have any proof of this conversation taking place? You're contending with numbers and diagrams submitted to the city for review, so that's quite a bit of contradictory evidence against the 19:1 ratio.
Contact him yourself and ask him. His e-mail address is on his website, and he's very cordial.
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