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Old May 24th, 2012, 10:52 PM   #2241
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For whatever it is worth the current plans show 54 floors of residential and only 7 floors for the hotel...that is floor not units
I was looking for those details, thanks for the information.

54 floors out of 61 usable living floors is 88.5%. I should think they exclude mech floors, retail space, etc from their calculations.

Seven floors of hotel space seems like such an afterthought for a project like this though. I'm sure the hotel facilities (ie pool, spa, etc) is available as well to the homeowners. But still, a small boutique hotel in a billion dollar building such as this seems odd. I can understand they'd want the lower floors for non-owner occupied units. As they'd be harder to sell and have to be much cheaper than the upper floors.

I'd be surprised if they got a big name hotel for such as small place. There's got to be a limited market for such hotels. I wonder if boutique office space would've been more marketable. Or more retail space.
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Old May 25th, 2012, 05:03 PM   #2242
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I was looking for those details, thanks for the information.

54 floors out of 61 usable living floors is 88.5%. I should think they exclude mech floors, retail space, etc from their calculations.

Seven floors of hotel space seems like such an afterthought for a project like this though. I'm sure the hotel facilities (ie pool, spa, etc) is available as well to the homeowners. But still, a small boutique hotel in a billion dollar building such as this seems odd. I can understand they'd want the lower floors for non-owner occupied units. As they'd be harder to sell and have to be much cheaper than the upper floors.

I'd be surprised if they got a big name hotel for such as small place. There's got to be a limited market for such hotels. I wonder if boutique office space would've been more marketable. Or more retail space.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...BwP8fVPkfvAN/0

There has been posted on this forum and elsewhere by RobertWalpole that the LVMH's Cheval Blanc brand is in the running to operate this project. (see link to NYPost article above)
I think it is fair to say this will be an extremely expensive and exclusive hotel. When you consider the the scope of this project and it's location Cheval Blanc makes a lot of sense.
It's going to be interesting to see this play out.

Today they are moving forms for the retaining wall below the retail space...moving forms for addition tower column footings (north wall of tower). I would love to know exactly how tall those form buttresses are they are using for the retaining walls...also pouring northeast corner retail retaining wall right now

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Old May 25th, 2012, 05:18 PM   #2243
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I don't know how fast the Wold Tower in Mumbai will rise, but if that's not really fast this one can catch up with the race.
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Old May 25th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #2244
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This is probably one of the most exciting towers to rise in Manhattan for me!
From the design to the location, this is going to be eye candy for the skyline.
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Old May 25th, 2012, 08:05 PM   #2245
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So it probably end up as the world's tallest residencial tower
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Old May 25th, 2012, 08:13 PM   #2246
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It should definitely be tense and interesting race..This one will fly out like a rocket..
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Old May 25th, 2012, 08:33 PM   #2247
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I don't visit the city much, but when I do, I will know which towers deserve my photography.

You would probably get good views from all directions all around, including the observatories @ the GE building & ESB as well.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 06:33 AM   #2248
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Known supertalls coming to Midtown:

1. One57
2. 225 W 57th
3. Torre Verre
4. Coach Tower
5. HY North Tower
6. HY Hotel/Condo
7. 15 Penn
8. Manhattan West
9. Girasole
10. 432 Park


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Old May 26th, 2012, 06:44 AM   #2249
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The illustration that RobertWalpole has provided clearly shows the visual impact 432 Park Avenue will have.

I find it inspiring to see such a simple design be so effective without the desperation to have a spire on top.

Also, notice how the design compliments the nearby neighboring towers.
Unlike most residential towers, there seem to be no balconies.
Imagine the amazing cellular signals the residents would get from that prime location in addition to magnificent sweeping views of the city.

I bet Donald Trump will be jealous.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 07:18 PM   #2250
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Huge windows!

Kinda like the Hearst tower, but smaller ..huge windows have a big impact.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 09:45 PM   #2251
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For being a tall, thin box, it looks pretty good I must say and will probably look better than the renders as well.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 09:46 PM   #2252
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For being a tall, thin box, it looks pretty good I must say and will probably look better than the renders as well.
Keep in mind that it's about as tall as the World Trade Center!
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Huge windows!

Kinda like the Hearst tower, but smaller ..huge windows have a big impact.
The metal squares are each about 15 feet wide.

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That glass cube looks like the Apple store on 5th Ave !!
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That glass cube looks like the Apple store on 5th Ave !!
Just a placeholder..But something very similar will be there.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 12:54 AM   #2256
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I love 432 Park Avenue -- something about this tower just screams, "I'm Tall" !!
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Old May 27th, 2012, 07:31 AM   #2257
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I think that's the only good render that actually shows the facade's detail. It looks soo neat and modern and minimal. I like it.

I think people will start liking it more, and stop complaining about it's thin'ness, if there were much better and more detailed renders that showed its' very unique facade more. Besides the height, I think the facade is what really sets it apart and it shows it's not just some long skinny ordinary box.
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I think that's the only good render that actually shows the facade's detail. It looks soo neat and modern and minimal. I like it.

I think people will start liking it more, and stop complaining about it's thin'ness, if there were much better and more detailed renders that showed its' very unique facade more. Besides the height, I think the facade is what really sets it apart and it shows it's not just some long skinny ordinary box.
I agree. People will change their tunes when the facade and the floating towers start rising.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 04:19 PM   #2259
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Exactly!
I love this tower!
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Old May 27th, 2012, 05:33 PM   #2260
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I think the design of this tower is iconic...Really tall and narrow, it definitely has the soar effect, I love it
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