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Old June 2nd, 2012, 05:00 PM   #2301
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What is the deal with this one's "floating towers"?
Go back a few pages...mechanical floors plus open terraces for residents...terraces also function to break up high wind vortices around building
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 05:07 PM   #2302
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Hm. So, the darker 'belts' will be completely open to the air, or will they have windows?
The lowest of these floating towers would be placed directly onto the ground, so it's not really floating is it?
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 06:02 PM   #2303
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Hm. So, the darker 'belts' will be completely open to the air, or will they have windows?
The lowest of these floating towers would be placed directly onto the ground, so it's not really floating is it?
Yes, were you see dark bands two floor high...the skin of the structure is open...partially open terraces for residents and the rest mechanical equipment. the open terraces function to reduce high vortices around the building...terraces appear to alternate sides of the building every 9 floors...here is link to plans...this will answer most of your questions..

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/BS...de=ES472277875
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 06:05 PM   #2304
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Neither of those teraces is floating since a core and perimeter columns are going through them, so the term floating is a poetic one
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 06:13 PM   #2305
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They aren't seriously floating of course, but because it looks like there are only a few colums between the residential parts. People say that it are "floating"' towers.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 06:23 PM   #2306
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They aren't seriously floating of course, but because it looks like there are only a few colums between the residential parts. People say that it are "floating"' towers.

Correct they don't float as all the perimeter columns and floors are continuous...but where the windows would be the spaces open to allow air to pass through part of the building.

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Old June 2nd, 2012, 09:00 PM   #2307
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where the diggers are it looks only about 30 foot wide ,how can they build 1400 foot up with such a narrow building ?
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 09:02 PM   #2308
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Because it will be 95 feet wide not 30
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 10:53 PM   #2309
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where the diggers are it looks only about 30 foot wide ,how can they build 1400 foot up with such a narrow building ?


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You're just underestimating the excavators that's all.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 11:40 PM   #2310
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It is more stupid to invest in office space these days, instead of residential.
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 12:04 AM   #2311
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It is more stupid to invest in office space these days, instead of residential.
Exactly. And how many office buildings being built are only office? The WTC complex is all office but most new towers are mixed use. Not just in NY.
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 03:53 AM   #2312
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Another box for the midtowns skyline. But I like it!
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 07:59 PM   #2313
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thanx but it still looks tight compared to other tall high rises ?
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 08:59 PM   #2314
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the shape is very weird...it's very thin e tall...why?
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 09:17 PM   #2315
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Maximum floor space at minimum land dimensions
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 09:44 PM   #2316
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Maximum floor space at minimum land dimensions
Don't forget maximum views with super high ceilings.
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 09:56 PM   #2317
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That's another very important factor I have forgotten to mention. Residential buildings must be tall and thin because if they would be wide there would be a lot of space without windows. Nobody would like to live in a place without windows, so it is paramount to maximize the ammound of rooms with windows
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 10:46 PM   #2318
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I've seen building like the Burj Khalifa that need tons of artificial light, otherwise it's really dark. I'm just glad the thinness of this design will allow so much light in, especially with the massive windows.
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 11:24 PM   #2319
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I've seen building like the Burj Khalifa that need tons of artificial light, otherwise it's really dark. I'm just glad the thinness of this design will allow so much light in, especially with the massive windows.
They should minimize the walls in in the building. So the sun loghts shines trough and letting tons and tons of light in. Saves you money on 2 things. Wall construction and electricity. Altough that would only be possible on a self supported tower like the destroyed twin towers in lower manhattan.
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Old June 4th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #2320
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Has construction offically begun? Is the height final?
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