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Old June 19th, 2012, 05:48 PM   #2581
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Just refresh the page a few times, it worked for me, #3 still not working. New design reminds me of a newspaper front page, it's nice.
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Old June 19th, 2012, 05:55 PM   #2582
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it's been 80 years, but Empire State still 3rd tallest. Come on NY ! !!
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Old June 19th, 2012, 07:57 PM   #2583
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Will the building have a facade directly onto 56th street and 57th street both? Or will there be a plaza or something outside?

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Old June 19th, 2012, 08:22 PM   #2584
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3rd is working now too. Awesome, things are really moving at the site now.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 12:34 AM   #2585
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Here's the pic from that link showing the rebars down there. Impressive!

Those columns will be massive.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 12:52 AM   #2586
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I can't believe so many skyscrapers going up in New York in such bad economic times. Imagine how things will be during the next economic boom?
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Old June 20th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #2587
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damn that pic is impressive
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Old June 20th, 2012, 01:13 AM   #2588
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I just took another grab from the cam today. Will make another GIF in a month or two, but the progress has been impressive.

http://www.newyorkyimby.com/2012/06/...-432-park.html

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Old June 20th, 2012, 02:53 PM   #2589
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I think they are excavating a big square in the center, maybe they are really starting the foundations now
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Old June 20th, 2012, 04:30 PM   #2590
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This building seems to be very thin for such height. What about oscillation of the top of the building? It will be very uncomfortable to live on the top floors.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 05:07 PM   #2591
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That square might be for a tower crane
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Old June 20th, 2012, 05:12 PM   #2592
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Wow, these cams are amazing.
Great to see a direct feed like that and not stills that updates every minute or so.
Thumbs up 432 Park Avenue
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Old June 20th, 2012, 06:14 PM   #2593
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If that square hole is for a tower crane, I think it will rise up against the north side of the tower.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:06 PM   #2594
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This building seems to be very thin for such height. What about oscillation of the top of the building? It will be very uncomfortable to live on the top floors.
The very top won't be occupied, and sway isn't an issue, as this building will have a tuned mass damper.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 10:01 PM   #2595
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http://i.imgur.com/CoAUd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Whe11.jpg

Mildly interesting Wall Street Journal article that shows a (now blurry) render of 432 that I hadn't seen before.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 10:21 PM   #2596
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Three cameras is not enough.

I want three hundred cameras, you lazy louts.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 10:27 PM   #2597
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If they had taken each section of the tower and twisted them by a number of differing angles, the tower would have been far more interesting. It may have even appeared like a 'twisting tower' if the angle of each section in relation to its neighbor was aligned correctly. This tower of course would have been far more expensive if such an idea had been implemented.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 10:29 PM   #2598
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If they had taken each section of the tower and twisted them by various angles, the tower would have been far more interesting. It may have even appeared like a 'twisting tower' if the angle of each section in relation to its neighbor was aligned correctly.
I don't think so. There have been way too many twisted towers already, that's so last-decadish.

The overall problem with this one remains the failed height-to-width proportions.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 10:34 PM   #2599
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I don't think so. There have been way too many twisted towers already, that's so last-decadish.

The overall problem with this one remains the failed height-to-width proportions.
Well, I disagree. I happen to like thin and tall towers for a very dense city like NY. The streets are so dense and built up that large supertall bulky buildings would just make them even more canyon-like and dark. Not exactly a welcome addition for the average NYer.

Although twisted towers are rather cliche, at least they are more visually exciting than a segmented box. Anyway, by varying the section angles by various amounts, the tower may not have had to appear twisted at all. Instead it might have had a more random and interesting appearance than a straight laced corporate box with divisions. Those sections are just begging to be independently swiveled around that axis.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 10:34 PM   #2600
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I agree, a twisting tower would have been far more interesting aesthetically, but I also think it could have commanded higher square foot prices. The upper floors on the current design will have great views looking dead North, South, East and West, but a twisting tower could have been designed where the top quarter of the tower faces Central Park dead on, looking Northwest.

Something like this but much taller obviously, that's cancelled by the way. I'd be interested to know why they didn't look to capitalize more on true park views.
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