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Old August 18th, 2012, 03:09 AM   #3201
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You may be right concerning the use of the excavator beyond next week, but we can't read the contractor's mind, nor are we privy to the schedule. At least the street level excavator will be needed to continue with the digging out of the ramp. This is where I really wish that both the 57 St. and Park Avenue cams were working properly, to get a sense of the overall operation. I myself want to see the final digging and machine removal operations, but with only the 56St. cam working, I can only guess what's going on.

The crane will appear when the contractor is ready to have it appear. Still the crane base footing needs to be poured and cured.
Just as an FYI the 57th street cam is back fully panned out. But Park Ave still seems to be offline. We really need that one and hopefully it will be back online soon.
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Old August 18th, 2012, 11:46 AM   #3202
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I don't recall seeing this render but was reading the Wall St Journal today and they had an article about high rise living and had this render in it.
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Old August 18th, 2012, 12:58 PM   #3203
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looks like this one to me, isn't it?

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Old August 18th, 2012, 02:53 PM   #3204
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As for me, I don't want see this tower in the beautyful NY skyline, I'm sure it will ruin it! Is there somebody who likes this tower???
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Old August 18th, 2012, 03:10 PM   #3205
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looks like this one to me, isn't it?
Yup, the same render. Just a little bit sharper. I think. Glass seems ok, and the grid thin.
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Old August 18th, 2012, 03:28 PM   #3206
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Friday morning, another day. Concrete is being poured into the forms south of the core, via the versatile Hitachi. This area was formed, waterproofed and reinforced yesterday in preparation for today's pour. The nook at the east side of the site, where the rebar bending crew and other building materials were located, have been relocated to the new section of slab on grade that was poured yesterday. My prediction is that this area may be next for preparation for concrete.

At the street, the triple-boom Hitachi continues with truck-loading duties.
I have a question, won't bending the rebar weaken it too much? Plastic bending is way above the fatigue limit of steel

Btw, there is a lot of debris on the ramp right now. Won't that pose a problem for the excavators? Or will they clean it up? Or is it just looking like there is debris there, in the cam?
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Old August 18th, 2012, 03:58 PM   #3207
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I have a question, won't bending the rebar weaken it too much? Plastic bending is way above the fatigue limit of steel
rebar is bent to the directions that tensile strength is required.

concrete is pretty useless in tension. any loss of strength in bending bar is factored into the design (i understand it to be minute)
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Old August 18th, 2012, 04:01 PM   #3208
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Is there somebody who likes this tower???
Yes, build it! Its minimalistic and elegant design will set a new architectural standard for future buildings in Manhattan. This tower will give the skyline a new boost.

After construction, they should continue with its tall proposed neighbors:
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Old August 18th, 2012, 04:07 PM   #3209
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rebar is bent to the directions that tensile strength is required.

concrete is pretty useless in tension. any loss of strength in bending bar is factored into the design (i understand it to be minute)
I see, but wouldn't it be more efficient to manufacture the rebar in the form to which it now is bent? That way there would be no strength loss at the curved area, though I can imagine it would be harder to store and transport it
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Old August 18th, 2012, 04:10 PM   #3210
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I see, but wouldn't it be more efficient to manufacture the rebar in the form to which it now is bent? That way there would be no strength loss at the curved area, though I can imagine it would be harder to store and transport it
No!! I think they know what they're doing.
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Old August 18th, 2012, 04:11 PM   #3211
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As for me, I don't want see this tower in the beautyful NY skyline, I'm sure it will ruin it! Is there somebody who likes this tower???
i like it because this will pave the way for taller buildings, i mean new york hasnt really had anything built this tall since 9/11 besides the wtc site, and now with all these other proposals that might be 1400ft + like girasole 225 and 57th street or something like that and many more, this will pave the way for those others to get built
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Old August 18th, 2012, 04:13 PM   #3212
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No!! I think they know what they're doing.
I know that they know what they're doing, it's just that I want to know it too. I'm curious about stuff like this since I would like to study it on a uni one day
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Old August 18th, 2012, 06:45 PM   #3213
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I see, but wouldn't it be more efficient to manufacture the rebar in the form to which it now is bent? That way there would be no strength loss at the curved area, though I can imagine it would be harder to store and transport it
some bar does get bent at the plant, but yes, often it has to do with shipping constraints.
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Old August 18th, 2012, 07:32 PM   #3214
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Thanks for the info
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Old August 18th, 2012, 08:06 PM   #3215
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I don't like this tower...
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Old August 18th, 2012, 10:52 PM   #3216
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I actually scanned that same article but never posted it since they also put this on the web.



Another year another slightly higher res pic of this render...
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Old August 19th, 2012, 02:10 AM   #3217
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Yes, build it! Its minimalistic and elegant design will set a new architectural standard for future buildings in Manhattan. This tower will give the skyline a new boost.

After construction, they should continue with its tall proposed neighbors:

??? What are these supposed to be?
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Old August 19th, 2012, 03:56 AM   #3218
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I don't like this tower...
I do.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 04:50 AM   #3219
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As Much as I Like this tower, it seems like it's out of place in the skyline, maybe it's the size of the tower, but I'll have to wait and see.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 03:23 PM   #3220
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This really is awful :/
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