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Old October 4th, 2012, 10:07 PM   #3841
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i dont think theres been any pouring for a while now
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Old October 4th, 2012, 10:20 PM   #3842
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i dont think theres been any pouring for a while now
I know, i don't think that too...it just looks like that
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Old October 4th, 2012, 10:26 PM   #3843
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Actually, it looks like they should be getting ready to do some pouring. Maybe the latter part of next week?
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Old October 4th, 2012, 11:05 PM   #3844
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I expect that the core will experience a pour next week, though so far I don't see any preparations at the perimeter columns
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Old October 4th, 2012, 11:17 PM   #3845
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These days they are loading all stuff on the site.
Progress today.
About 8:30 this morning:
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Old October 4th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #3846
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I expect that the core will experience a pour next week, though so far I don't see any preparations at the perimeter columns
I do not think they have made any new pours on the core...
I agree it will be next week unless they do some pour tomorrow...often they will do this on Friday so it can set over the weekend

they have set a fair amount of vertical rebar in both the tower perimeter columns on the 57 st side, garage columns around the electrical cabinet and in the retail building basement on 57.
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Old October 4th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #3847
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Thanks for the screen shots!!! Does the floor slab concrete also get rebar or is that only for the beams?

I still don't get how the get rid of the wood once they pour the concrete. I would think it would all be stuck together.
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Old October 4th, 2012, 11:24 PM   #3848
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Actually, it looks like they should be getting ready to do some pouring. Maybe the latter part of next week?
Supposed to be Wednesday however that was as of early this week so things may have changed.

Either way sometime next week should see concrete on a few sections, the core as well as the small section along 56th
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Old October 4th, 2012, 11:26 PM   #3849
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Thanks for the screen shots!!! Does the floor slab concrete also get rebar or is that only for the beams?

I still don't get how the get rid of the wood once they pour the concrete. I would think it would all be stuck together.
If the concrete is dry the wood is easy to remove I think.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 12:35 AM   #3850
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Floor slabs normally also get rebar. Maybe they'll use prefabricated slabs, for that extra boost?
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Old October 5th, 2012, 01:13 AM   #3851
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Floor slabs normally also get rebar. Maybe they'll use prefabricated slabs, for that extra boost?
They will be pouring a conventional slab for the floor as the have placed the timber shuttering. They already have some re bar up there ready for laying out. They will prob lay the rebar just before the pour as its difficult to walk around with the bars laid out.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 05:30 AM   #3852
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I must say that this looks cool. Assuming that 225 W 57th is as tall (or taller), it and 432 will be nice Central Park bookends with "mere" 300m towers (One 57 and Torre Verre) in between!



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/re...ealestate&_r=0

Big Deal

Another Tower for the New York Skyline

By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO

Published: October 4, 2012

THE skyline-altering battle over bragging rights and superlatives in Manhattan real estate will heat up soon as construction gets under way on the 95-story tower at Park Avenue and East 56th Street.

FOOT RACE The 95-story tower planned for the Drake Hotel site will be the city’s tallest apartment building.


Just shy of 1,397 feet, 432 Park Avenue will be the city’s tallest apartment building when it is completed in a few years, soaring past its next-highest competitor, One57, by almost 400 feet. The apartments will be large, and very expensive, with an 8,255-square-foot six-bedroom penthouse on the 95th floor being listed for $82.55 million, according to the condominium’s offering plan.

The Park Avenue tower’s 147 residential units, which have already undergone two price increases totaling 3 percent, are being listed, when counted together, for $2.43 billion, a record for a residential development, appraisers say.

But who will be able to claim credit for the slender structure being designed by the Uruguayan-born architect Rafael Viñoly?

Will it be Harry B. Macklowe, the legendary developer who has survived a roller-coaster career of highs and lows? Or the CIM Group, the Los Angeles-based real estate investment company that acquired the land, on the site of the old Drake Hotel, after Mr. Macklowe defaulted on his loan in 2007?

Both are listed in the tower’s offering plan. While some real estate executives in New York are embracing a familiar narrative for the famously risk-loving Mr. Macklowe for staging yet another comeback, just how involved he will be in the building’s development — and eventual profits — remains a mystery to outsiders.

“That is one of the best-kept secrets out there right now,” said Andrew Gerringer, head of new business development at Marketing Directors, a real estate marketing company. “At the end of the day he had really no say in what was going to happen to that property. He was lucky he has any part of that deal. He was going to lose the property entirely.”

Real estate consultants and one person involved with the project believe that Mr. Macklowe will be able to share in the glory, but with little to no chance for outsize financial gains if 432 Park Avenue becomes a roaring success on the scale of, say, 15 Central Park West.

A more likely scenario, real estate consultants said, is that Mr. Macklowe is acting as a consultant or “fee developer” on 432 Park Avenue, lending his expertise for an upfront fee or salary.

Neither CIM Group nor Mr. Macklowe would comment on his role in 432 Park. The development has yet to set up a sales center, although discussions are already under way with potential buyers, brokers said. Foundation work is wrapping up, and the building will soon start to rise.
That Mr. Macklowe, 75, has been able to claw back time and again speaks as much to his never-say-die nature as it does to the clubby world of powerful New York developers, who seem to find lenders willing to bet on them time and again....

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Old October 5th, 2012, 08:26 AM   #3853
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Old October 5th, 2012, 11:56 AM   #3854
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Looks awesome at that render. Totally fits in skyline IMO. Great article though.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 12:03 PM   #3855
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I must say that this looks cool. Assuming that 225 W 57th is as tall (or taller), it and 432 will be nice Central Park bookends with "mere" 300m towers (One 57 and Torre Verre) in between!



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/re...ealestate&_r=0
WOW.. In my opinion, this building will take the NYC skyline past what it was pre 9-11. One World Trade 'restores' its former glory but this building will take the skyline beyond what is was.. congratulations NY on the rise of this awesome building!
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Old October 5th, 2012, 03:15 PM   #3856
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I look forward to seeing this site in a five years with the following supertalls added: 225 W 57th, 432 Park, Torre Verre, and HY North, HY South, and HY Res Tower 1. Maybe by that time 15 Penn, Manhattan West, and the Grand Central supertall on 42nd St will be u/c too.

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Old October 5th, 2012, 05:55 PM   #3857
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How long does it usually take in New York to get a tower, up, certified and running?

It's the 5th day in a row that the people are working on the machinery and it hasn't been used to lift materials left. I think, compared to other cranes I've seen installed worldwide that it takes very long for this one to get ready.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 06:03 PM   #3858
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I must say that this looks cool. Assuming that 225 W 57th is as tall (or taller), it and 432 will be nice Central Park bookends with "mere" 300m towers (One 57 and Torre Verre) in between!



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/re...ealestate&_r=0

Big Deal

Another Tower for the New York Skyline

By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO

Published: October 4, 2012

THE skyline-altering battle over bragging rights and superlatives in Manhattan real estate will heat up soon as construction gets under way on the 95-story tower at Park Avenue and East 56th Street.

FOOT RACE The 95-story tower planned for the Drake Hotel site will be the city’s tallest apartment building.


Just shy of 1,397 feet, 432 Park Avenue will be the city’s tallest apartment building when it is completed in a few years, soaring past its next-highest competitor, One57, by almost 400 feet. The apartments will be large, and very expensive, with an 8,255-square-foot six-bedroom penthouse on the 95th floor being listed for $82.55 million, according to the condominium’s offering plan.

The Park Avenue tower’s 147 residential units, which have already undergone two price increases totaling 3 percent, are being listed, when counted together, for $2.43 billion, a record for a residential development, appraisers say.

But who will be able to claim credit for the slender structure being designed by the Uruguayan-born architect Rafael Viñoly?

Will it be Harry B. Macklowe, the legendary developer who has survived a roller-coaster career of highs and lows? Or the CIM Group, the Los Angeles-based real estate investment company that acquired the land, on the site of the old Drake Hotel, after Mr. Macklowe defaulted on his loan in 2007?

Both are listed in the tower’s offering plan. While some real estate executives in New York are embracing a familiar narrative for the famously risk-loving Mr. Macklowe for staging yet another comeback, just how involved he will be in the building’s development — and eventual profits — remains a mystery to outsiders.

“That is one of the best-kept secrets out there right now,” said Andrew Gerringer, head of new business development at Marketing Directors, a real estate marketing company. “At the end of the day he had really no say in what was going to happen to that property. He was lucky he has any part of that deal. He was going to lose the property entirely.”

Real estate consultants and one person involved with the project believe that Mr. Macklowe will be able to share in the glory, but with little to no chance for outsize financial gains if 432 Park Avenue becomes a roaring success on the scale of, say, 15 Central Park West.

A more likely scenario, real estate consultants said, is that Mr. Macklowe is acting as a consultant or “fee developer” on 432 Park Avenue, lending his expertise for an upfront fee or salary.

Neither CIM Group nor Mr. Macklowe would comment on his role in 432 Park. The development has yet to set up a sales center, although discussions are already under way with potential buyers, brokers said. Foundation work is wrapping up, and the building will soon start to rise.
That Mr. Macklowe, 75, has been able to claw back time and again speaks as much to his never-say-die nature as it does to the clubby world of powerful New York developers, who seem to find lenders willing to bet on them time and again....
95 floors ?????
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Old October 5th, 2012, 06:37 PM   #3859
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How long does it usually take in New York to get a tower, up, certified and running?

It's the 5th day in a row that the people are working on the machinery and it hasn't been used to lift materials left. I think, compared to other cranes I've seen installed worldwide that it takes very long for this one to get ready.
I was wondering if they had a problem with the crane too.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 08:03 PM   #3860
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95 stories? Woohoo! That sounds perfect!
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