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Old December 26th, 2012, 11:29 PM   #5001
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Yeah, most do. It's actually a nice sized city with a well-developed downtown. City-proper is 77,000 and metro is 165,000. By land area, it's larger than Paris. I hate it, though.

I've been through there, it's not a bad area. I grew up in Tampa and it snowed a few inches there back in 1976 so that's probably the same storm that hit Albany, Ga
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Old December 26th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #5002
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Why are we talking about snow in the south? It's raining in NYC
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Old December 26th, 2012, 11:46 PM   #5003
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Sorry, got off topic. Yeah, there is going to be rain, snow, and sleet in NYC this week. It looked like snow on the 432 Park webcam, but I guess I was mistaken.
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Old December 27th, 2012, 06:56 PM   #5004
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I've seen it snow once in my life back in 2010. It was the first time it had snowed in 38 years here.
Lol! I remember that storm. Most in my area didn't believe it would happen until it did.

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Why are we talking about snow in the south? It's raining in NYC
I wonder, is there still snow on top of 1 WTC/Empire State Building? I've seen lots of NYC pictures in the past with rain at street level and snow on top of the skyscrapers
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Old December 27th, 2012, 07:51 PM   #5005
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are this towers web cams down for anyone else?
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Old December 27th, 2012, 09:31 PM   #5006
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Still quite a bit of action on site today. First time I see prefab columns here (bottom left)

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Old December 27th, 2012, 11:55 PM   #5007
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maybe 1 week or 2 before this shoots in the air. can't wait for that moment.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 02:47 AM   #5008
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So excited for this project!!!!
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Old December 28th, 2012, 05:59 AM   #5009
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You are right. But here in New York we are just maniacs, bent on destroying the charm and history of our city and make it look like the plastic Dubai or whatnot. After the tragic destruction of the old and magnificent Penn Station, we have no honor or care left in this city. The Drake was a beauty, so were those charming small buildings. At the very least, their elegant fašades could have been preserved and incorporated into the new super tall, inelegant "shoe box stack" of a building.

As NY Times wrote as the obit to the old Penn Station: "societies are judged by what they build and preserve, not by what they destroy." In NYC, we destroy like no one's business. We even pulled down and destroyed the first two Presidential Mansions used by President G. Washington when NYC was the capital of the USA. One of them is now a car park at the side of the Brooklyn Bridge, the other a Duane-Read convenient store on Broadway! Great work, won't you say?
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Old December 28th, 2012, 04:33 PM   #5010
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I think that this tower is so awesome that razing the Drake was worth it. After all, it was just a small uniconic lowrise. A cutting edge supertall contributes to the city and its skyline far more than such old lowrises
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Old December 28th, 2012, 04:40 PM   #5011
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I completely agree. People can make this same case for all historic lowrise buildings, but at the end of the day, will people be more impressed by an 80 year old 15 story building with cutting edge architecture or a modern 1400 foot tower that is cutting edge in its own way. Most people are not stuck in the past and definitely do not appreciate architecture as much as those on this forum.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 05:26 PM   #5012
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Most people are not stuck in the past and definitely do not appreciate architecture as much as those on this forum.
Agreed. Hopefully some organizations like UNESCO can get this through their thick skulls!
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Old December 28th, 2012, 05:26 PM   #5013
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Location, location, location! Money, money, money!
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Old December 28th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #5014
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Amazing amount of work being done on the device they will use to build the core. I'm kind of surprised they don't seem to be doing much on the 56th Street side of the core - not setting up the columns or anything.

Also, interesting to note that the 57th street cam is now the one with the better view :-)
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Old December 28th, 2012, 06:26 PM   #5015
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The crane is in full swing today. We should see a good bit of progress.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 07:24 PM   #5016
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amen to that
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Old December 28th, 2012, 08:30 PM   #5017
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I completely agree. People can make this same case for all historic lowrise buildings, but at the end of the day, will people be more impressed by an 80 year old 15 story building with cutting edge architecture or a modern 1400 foot tower that is cutting edge in its own way. Most people are not stuck in the past and definitely do not appreciate architecture as much as those on this forum.
How can an 80 year old building have cutting-edge architecture?
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Old December 28th, 2012, 10:56 PM   #5018
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it can't lol. Unless somebody goes in and refit the whole building.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 11:42 PM   #5019
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it looks like their is some kind of light show going on in the building next to the site on 57th.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 07:50 AM   #5020
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How can an 80 year old building have cutting-edge architecture?
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I meant cutting edge for its time: something that most people overlook, but those on this forum appreciate.
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