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Old January 7th, 2013, 11:17 PM   #5101
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Definitively moving up. 1 more floor and they'll have to adjust the angle of the webcam.
when the building is higher than the cam they should place one on the empire building with a high resolution zoom.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 12:32 AM   #5102
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Wow, I didn't know that the original WTC did that with its perimeter steel. Thanks for the info. I figured every structural part of the building would do this, but I wasn't positive.
Ops ...... looks like I forgot to say I was speaking about core columns, sorry.
As far as I know, the size of perimeter 'minicolumns' (let's call'em this way as a contrast with actual 'supercolumns') was quite the same from base to top, but evidently the size reduction of core trusses and columns was enough to lower the center of gravity of the whole building(s).
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Old January 8th, 2013, 12:54 AM   #5103
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Oh, I got you now. Thanks.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 02:00 AM   #5104
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What are the dimensions again? Width, breadth?
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Old January 8th, 2013, 02:29 AM   #5105
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when the building is higher than the cam they should place one on the empire building with a high resolution zoom.
or One 57.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 02:34 AM   #5106
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What are the dimensions again? Width, breadth?
93' 6" square
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Old January 8th, 2013, 03:41 AM   #5107
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93' 6" square
...... which is 28,53 meters, which is less than half than Twin Towers (64m/210 ft), which is smaller than the core of Shanghai Tower (31m/101' 7") ...... it's incredible how thin this supertall will be.......
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Old January 8th, 2013, 06:16 AM   #5108
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This tower is almost just for show with this little floor space
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Old January 8th, 2013, 06:33 AM   #5109
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This tower is almost just for show with this little floor space
In Melbourne you can get the same type of development, albeit shorter but with same floor size to core ratio. Not new in the world of development and this isn't that incredibly small anyway when considering from 30 floors or so up the core will diminish in size.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 10:18 AM   #5110
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This tower is almost just for show with this little floor space
New York doesn't build skyscrapers "just for show." Do you understand the incredible demand for high end residential space in Manhattan right now? That is why New York is about to enter its largest construction boom since the 1930s, and by the end of this decade, New York will have something along the line of 20 (TWENTY) supertalls, built on DEMAND, not for show. Please think before you state nonsense.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 11:21 AM   #5111
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New York doesn't build skyscrapers "just for show." Do you understand the incredible demand for high end residential space in Manhattan right now? That is why New York is about to enter its largest construction boom since the 1930s, and by the end of this decade, New York will have something along the line of 20 (TWENTY) supertalls, built on DEMAND, not for show. Please think before you state nonsense.
Maybe it's because English is not my father's language, but seems to me that Los Earth wrote "is almost just for show". This makes me to think he's aware that 432 is not being really built for show, and that he was basically expressing an opinion that, despite the way it was expressed, it had to be meant just as an aestethic opinion, referred to the thin look of the building.
Maybe I'm wrong of course, but, until a doubt edge is left, I prefer to think (and get 100% sure) before pointing someone as an ignorant.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 01:38 PM   #5112
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This tower is almost just for show with this little floor space
It is still roughly 400-500 m2 per floor. Enough for a pretty large apartment.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 02:16 PM   #5113
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New York doesn't build skyscrapers "just for show." Do you understand the incredible demand for high end residential space in Manhattan right now? That is why New York is about to enter its largest construction boom since the 1930s, and by the end of this decade, New York will have something along the line of 20 (TWENTY) supertalls, built on DEMAND, not for show. Please think before you state nonsense.
Do you even know how to write a post without at least one insult in it? Who are you to insult the forumer you quoted?

As to the building, a building of this width is exactly the perfect residential building. Residential buildings can't be wide because then they would have many windowless rooms which nobody would want to buy. 432 Park gives maximum space with windows and maximum height for awesome views. That's why they can ask 100 millions for the top apartments
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Old January 8th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #5114
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This tower is almost just for show with this little floor space
As another user said, NYC does not build for show. Cities like Dubai, Mecca, Kuala Lumpur,ect. do that. The taller the building, the higher you can charge tenants. There is enough demand for housing of the price, so why not build it? Plus its really nice to own a whole floor rather than having to share it.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #5115
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Agreed. Other cities' massive skyscrapers are government funded or heavily subsidized or encouraged. Which is why America doesn't really build them anymore. They're all demand/private sector driven.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 10:28 PM   #5116
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Old January 8th, 2013, 10:36 PM   #5117
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That will depend on who buys a apartment there.
What do you mean?
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Old January 8th, 2013, 10:41 PM   #5118
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The floor space is not THAT small, come on. You can easily nicely in such dimensions. Plus the height makes it look that much thinner than it really is.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 10:45 PM   #5119
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Do you even know how to write a post without at least one insult in it? Who are you to insult the forumer you quoted?

As to the building, a building of this width is exactly the perfect residential building. Residential buildings can't be wide because then they would have many windowless rooms which nobody would want to buy. 432 Park gives maximum space with windows and maximum height for awesome views. That's why they can ask 100 millions for the top apartments
Do you feel the need to comment on everything I say? "Quit antagonizing me!"
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Old January 8th, 2013, 11:04 PM   #5120
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Walked by the site today for the first time since it's been above ground, and the square sections that will house the windows are enormous. This will be a very glassy tower.
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