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Old January 14th, 2013, 06:22 AM   #5241
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How long before it overtakes the bldgs around it? Apr to May?
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Old January 14th, 2013, 06:56 AM   #5242
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I'd say about so, much of the buildings around it's 2 block radius are from 200-600ft.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 12:32 PM   #5243
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Judging by the size of the crane is it only going to be used for the construction of the retail building?

They have moved all the cameras this weekend to. Tho i wish they would keep one on the 56th street roadway as we cant see that now and i was enjoying looking at all the offloads coming into the site
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Old January 14th, 2013, 01:35 PM   #5244
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It looks like 1 crane can handle the tower
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Old January 14th, 2013, 03:07 PM   #5245
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Quick update:

First white concrete pour this week!
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Old January 14th, 2013, 03:13 PM   #5246
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With the concrete pump, one crane is more than enough. They will go one floor every 4 days with one crane once they reach floors above the retail section.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 03:45 PM   #5247
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1 floor per 4 days huh, it could top out this year :o
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Old January 14th, 2013, 03:48 PM   #5248
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Quick update:

First white concrete pour this week!
Nice thanks for the updates...can you shed anymore light on the new crane? Will it in fact only be to help build the retail section?
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Old January 14th, 2013, 04:21 PM   #5249
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Nice thanks for the updates...can you shed anymore light on the new crane? Will it in fact only be to help build the retail section?
Both cranes will be utilized for the lower section of the building until it is determined that the second is no longer necessary. There is a substantial amount of crane time utilized for the columns and shear wall cages that is not usually experienced on a "normal" project. So, to answer your question, no, it is not for the retail part of the building.

There is a high likelihood "the" permanent crane will be installed inside the building once the project reaches the the mid-point in order to allow for retail and plaza construction to complete prior to superstructure completion.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 04:38 PM   #5250
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So all in all it's possible this crane comes in 2013 and goes in 2013.
Sounds good they will finish the retail before the tower is finished.
And pouring is twice as fast now.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #5251
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Both cranes will be utilized for the lower section of the building until it is determined that the second is no longer necessary. There is a substantial amount of crane time utilized for the columns and shear wall cages that is not usually experienced on a "normal" project. So, to answer your question, no, it is not for the retail part of the building.

There is a high likelihood "the" permanent crane will be installed inside the building once the project reaches the the mid-point in order to allow for retail and plaza construction to complete prior to superstructure completion.
Thanks for the update. But wouldnt completeing the retail section before the superstructure severely limit the amount of available ground space for materials? (which is already limited and tightly packed as it is)
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Thanks for the update. But wouldnt completeing the retail section before the superstructure severely limit the amount of available ground space for materials? (which is already limited and tightly packed as it is)
Retail section will have exit on the 57th street while materials are being delivered through the 56th street. So it makes sense.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 08:02 PM   #5253
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"Thanks for the update. But wouldnt completeing the retail section before the superstructure severely limit the amount of available ground space for materials? (which is already limited and tightly packed as it is)"

yes, but the owner is always right.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 08:44 PM   #5254
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will they really leave the frames windowless on the mechanical floors?
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Old January 14th, 2013, 08:49 PM   #5255
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First white concrete pour this week!
Already pooring at this moment, but at the core.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 09:21 PM   #5256
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Already pooring at this moment, but at the core.
That is grey concrete.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 09:21 PM   #5257
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will they really leave the frames windowless on the mechanical floors?
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Old January 14th, 2013, 09:29 PM   #5258
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Nice thanks for the updates...can you shed anymore light on the new crane? Will it in fact only be to help build the retail section?
IIRC the retail area girders are roughly 150T each. Assembled in sections they will still require a crane larger than either favco.

Id bet on a large hydraulic for the specialty picks.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #5259
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interesting, i think they should put windows in those frames too, and not just because of thermal bridging or aerodynamics...
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Old January 15th, 2013, 12:37 AM   #5260
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Noo, when they do that, I will agree with people that the design is bland.
The nonwindow mechanical floors give you the impression of a bunch of boxes on top of each other.
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