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Old January 27th, 2013, 01:38 PM   #5501
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The facade concrete looks incredible. It looks like marble and it gives the building a truly mystical appearance. Honestly this is be one of the best clad buildings in the world
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Old January 27th, 2013, 02:23 PM   #5502
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That is some amazingly dense rebar!!
Quite thick bars also. Thanks for these detailed pictures. Very informative.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 05:38 PM   #5503
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No official rendering no official statement on this building height i have a feeling the developers have something up their sleeves on the final design of this building,so as i said once and i will say again beat the Sears tower/Willis tower !!!
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Old January 27th, 2013, 05:46 PM   #5504
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I'm betting on a 6 meter height increase.
That would make the height the same as the adress.
Which has something magical I think.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 05:52 PM   #5505
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knowing the exact height of one of these squares, shouldn't we be able to extrapolate the exact height? its a perfect raster isn't it?
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Old January 27th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #5506
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I'm betting on a 6 meter height increase.
That would make the height the same as the adress.
Which has something magical I think.
I don't know about that what significance would that make since most of us Americans don't know the Metre system of measuring.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 06:02 PM   #5507
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You have to give credit here to the uniqueness of the design, i.e. the height to width ratio, the facade materials, the open air sky lobbys, etc.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #5508
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knowing the exact height of one of these squares, shouldn't we be able to extrapolate the exact height? its a perfect raster isn't it?
Not necessarily, they could always add or substract another line of these squares. Until it's top out we won't know for certain what the height will be though I agree with yankee that a height increase is possible. Look at Marina 101, it received additional 20 meters just a few weeks ago when it was nearly topped out
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Old January 27th, 2013, 06:22 PM   #5509
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If they do a height increase why not 16m to 442,1 so it beats World One.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 07:52 PM   #5510
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I already asked this, but I haven't seen any steel beams, so is this building concrete and rebar or does it have steel beams?
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Old January 27th, 2013, 08:12 PM   #5511
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Concrete and rebar only, as far as I know. It's standard for residential towers.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 08:13 PM   #5512
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The facade concrete looks incredible. It looks like marble and it gives the building a truly mystical appearance. Honestly this is be one of the best clad buildings in the world
I really hope it has a marble, Art Deco-esque lobby to top it off. That'd be magical!
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Old January 27th, 2013, 09:46 PM   #5513
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You mean like the Chrysler Building. That would indeed be great.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 09:51 PM   #5514
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ESB too. To me, nothing beats those lobbies, although I hear 1CMP is marvelous. Never seen it though. I'll try to visit it this summer.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 10:08 PM   #5515
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One Chase Manhattan Plaza? That lobby must be huge, but modern.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 10:09 PM   #5516
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I know nothing about it, other than its supposedly beautiful.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 11:25 PM   #5517
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Reminiscent of the former WTC lobbies.

Actually, I really have come to love that building, recently, Hope I can say the same for 432 Park.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:37 AM   #5518
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Me too. Late 1950s to mid 1960s modernism is absolutely gorgeous, and in my opinion completely different from late 1960s to late 1970s internationalism. Not necessarily better, but more, I don't know, futuristic? (Bit of a paradox, huh?)
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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:44 AM   #5519
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Back in those days indeed futuristic. But still one of the best examples of international style.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:46 AM   #5520
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Yeah, the difference in the modernist towers of NYC and Montreal compared Chicago and San Francisco is major, but I like both equally.
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