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Old February 9th, 2013, 11:16 PM   #5701
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I agree, this ain't gonna happen, but an observation deck in this area and 400 meter up would be very cool.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 11:33 AM   #5702
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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8392/8...5bc5a990_h.jpg

So i happened to grab this closeup of the core, and for the life of me I cannot see anything protruding or any plugs that might be removed to reveal rebar in the core. The west side of the core looks completely smooth.

Are either of these mechanisms described installed and I just can see them?

If so, would someone point them out?
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Not that good of a resolution photo, but I can see some strips in the wall of the core that look like what is shown in that first pdf link he posted. They have a temporary covering (to keep the wet concrete from flooding the cavity) that will be removed to reveal the rebar under them, which then have to be bent outwards to be tied into the floor rebar they'll lay down.

I'm fairly certain that's what these are:


Though I've done foundation concrete work over the years for houses and apartment building construction, can't ever say I had the pleasure of doing this kind of concrete construction.

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Old February 10th, 2013, 02:52 PM   #5703
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Unless you've worked on highrise jumpforms, you wouldn't be able to comprehend the complexity of it. The temporary covering are polystyrene and there is a recess built into the core..... so when they lay out the reinforcement for the floor slab it'll make one monolithic joint with the core.

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Old February 10th, 2013, 08:14 PM   #5704
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0% chance of an obs deck. With the upper units pricing well north of $50M, and probably into the $80M+ for the penthouses, the last thing those people will want is a busy public space.
This, plus the small footprint of the tower. There's simply no room in the core for dedicated elevators for the observation deck.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:08 PM   #5705
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Some pictures from today, Sunday. I tried to get good pics of the new construction systems:

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Interesting. In the above picture note it appears to have WOOD between layers of concrete. Also note the exposed rebar at the bottom of the opening. Strange stuff but I'm sure someone has an explanation.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:13 PM   #5706
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Today's pictures continued:

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I still don't get how this system attaches/adheres to the structure without damaging the concrete.

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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:14 PM   #5707
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Perhaps the wood may be removed and the slab connected to the core??
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:18 PM   #5708
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Still more:

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I know some have commented on how large the windows will be. This is the first time I really got an appreciation for their size. I think they must be at least 12 feet tall.

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One day I'd like to actually see them installing the rebar. It looks like it must be quite a job.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:19 PM   #5709
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Perhaps the wood may be removed and the slab connected to the core??
Just wanted to say that. They will remove that wood and connect floor rebars to the steel in the core and then fill it with concrete.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:38 PM   #5710
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What a massive update, many thx
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Old February 10th, 2013, 11:06 PM   #5711
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Nice update, it looks sunny but there is much snow. Nice details.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 06:14 AM   #5712
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Yeah chances of an observation deck are probably 0,, the superrich don't want thousands of people a day walking on their ceilings,, and a roof obs, I imagine somebody will have bought the roof as well, It just seems like with out their planning of 1 their ruling out more yearly profits from the average joe that wants to spend 25 dollars per person or watever they want to charge in that matter,, to be on the highest point of NYC,, and snap a few photos.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 07:18 AM   #5713
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On the side where the townhouses used to be, what kind of podium will be there? Regular glass, or will it be white concrete as well?
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Old February 11th, 2013, 01:30 PM   #5714
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I believe it will be just glass.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 01:48 PM   #5715
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One day I'd like to actually see them installing the rebar. It looks like it must be quite a job.
Would be cool to see that in detail. Since the rebar is all prefab, it should not be too complicated.

thanks for the detailed updates.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 04:27 PM   #5716
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600West218,

Thank you for such DETAILED pictures. This is exactly the kind of pictures that I like to see, details of the construction process. No doubt, this is the most closely watched project in NYC. I was also trying to figure out how the climbing forms operate, and these detailed photos help a lot.

Please take pictures when you can. They are GREATLY appreciated!!
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Old February 11th, 2013, 04:27 PM   #5717
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Thanks for the update. It seems they never stopped working on this beauty during the blizzard.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #5718
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Though they can't do much now. I haven't seen the cranes working yet. It's not busy on site.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 07:15 PM   #5719
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Some pictures from today, Sunday. I tried to get good pics of the new construction systems:




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Interesting. In the above picture note it appears to have WOOD between layers of concrete. Also note the exposed rebar at the bottom of the opening. Strange stuff but I'm sure someone has an explanation.
Yes, I too want to say thanks for the closeup shots of these details. I really wish I could see this going up in person, but this is the next best thing!

I see now how the slab attachment system will work; now I wonder how the perimeter scaffolding is supported...

I can see that the bottom of the bracket hooks over the sill (?), but what holds the top of the bracket (where the platform is) to the structure?
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Old February 11th, 2013, 08:20 PM   #5720
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I can see that the bottom of the bracket hooks over the sill (?), but what holds the top of the bracket (where the platform is) to the structure?
Probably something similar?

The wood between the 2 layers wille be removed and my guess is that they'll connect new rebar (of the floor) to the rebar that is behind the wood.
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