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Old October 21st, 2011, 08:39 PM   #641
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Huh? from that angle yea it is
I see now. Thank you.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 08:47 PM   #642
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Actually the one that looks like it is directly behind the ESB is 15 Penn Plaza
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Old October 21st, 2011, 09:46 PM   #643
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he asked what was behind esb and the 15 penn.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 09:48 PM   #644
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I know what 15 Penn looks like. I was talking about the building next to it.
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 01:04 AM   #645
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 01:27 AM   #646
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This is what is was supposed to look like with the drum-shaped mechanical floors. I suspect that the image released in the WSJ may have been a massing model and that the drums might still be retained.

STR
What's the building behind Citigroup in the picture? :O
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 05:47 AM   #647
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Look. From what I could understand this 3D image of the STR​​, I believe that buildings of this image (from the Empire State) from left to right is (Projects): 15 Pen Plaza - Manhattan West - Girasole - .... (Now, on the side closest to the Central Park)... Tower Verre - 225 West 57th Street - One 57 - 440 Park Ave.

I'm not entirely sure of that, because some models are very strange, and other projects are not yet defined (Like the 225 West 57th Street).
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 07:02 AM   #648
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I BELIEVE you are right. although not too sure about girasole
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 12:30 PM   #649
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Nice progress
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 12:38 PM   #650
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Agreed! Time to move this into the construction forum?
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 12:59 PM   #651
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Agreed. With such a simplistic design, it comes down to the facade. A cheap facade could turn this thing into a disaster, but a great facade, like we're seeing at the WTC and hopefully some nice details that the renders don't show, could make this sort of nice.

So I'm shocked that Kanto hasn't posted in here. Is it fair to say at this point that he saw the render, had a heart attack, and is now dead?
ROFLMAO, no, I was just on vacation in the mountains

The building looks awesome. It truly is as beautiful as I had hoped. It would look better without the funky mechanical floors but it is still the best looking building in NYC

Btw, judging by that last pic, it really should be moved to the construction subforum
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 05:46 PM   #652
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Fascinating how quickly this went from wow a new project to digging the foundation for me.
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 08:26 PM   #653
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Agreed! Time to move this into the construction forum?
No. You people should really read up to what U/C actually means. You can see they're digging a huge hole for the foundation right now, which means preparing the construction site. As soon as the hole is deep enough and they start working on the actual foundation it means the building is under construction.
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Proposed ---> the projects has only been released

Pre-planning ---> the projects is going through planning stages.

Approved ---> the project has been passed through planning

Prep ---> construction has commenced preparing the site (ie foundations)

U/C ---> the steel/concrete is now rising

T/O ---> the building has topped off and internal, external construction continues

Comp ---> obviously the project is complete


So in I would of thought prep would be classed as under construction really as there are construction workers on site.
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 09:14 PM   #655
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Hah no because in the past lots of projects broke ground and there were workers on the site. Everyone got really excited like, U/C U/C U/C!! Then we were staring at a hole for 2 months which isn't very exciting and people started trolling cuz they got bored etc. In some cases construction workers actually left the site and construction actually started years later either because they didn't have enough money, the contractor or developer pulled out or because the market turned around. You see what I mean? There is always the possibility that we have to disappoint people when a project doesn't pull through and it's already in the U/C section.
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 09:22 PM   #656
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No. You people should really read up to what U/C actually means. You can see they're digging a huge hole for the foundation right now, which means preparing the construction site. As soon as the hole is deep enough and they start working on the actual foundation it means the building is under construction.
what you mean, "you people". haha no but seriously don't you think thats a little condescending? just because your a moderator on this site doesn't mean your better than any of us.
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 09:24 PM   #657
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I like the design but i think it can do without the circular drums, hopefully the render in the WSJ is the final design
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 09:29 PM   #658
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what you mean, "you people". haha no but seriously don't you think thats a little condescending? just because your a moderator on this site doesn't mean your better than any of us.
I admit it sounds a little harsh but the fact is that barely any user reads the announcements and sticky threads here. This results into false info, wrong titles and extra work for us moderators. By the way, how am I any better than you are? How are you drawing that conclusion
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 10:05 PM   #659
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Well you can't not put a construction project, where work has clearly started, simply in case construction halts.
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 10:09 PM   #660
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Well you can't not put a construction project, where work has clearly started, simply in case construction halts.
...but you can damper the side effects. Just wait until the foundation starts and it will be more worth the wait.
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