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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:10 AM   #6741
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And to top it all, the location of this thing is a prime city like New York. If the height was shorter so it wouldn't stand out in the huge bulk of skyscrapers it would be perfectly adequate as well, but dominating over them as the highest one is just wrong. It doesn't deserve this spot in the skyline IMO.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:11 AM   #6742
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Why aren't you allowed to watch the action.
Because it's 01:00 am here.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:13 AM   #6743
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buildings as tall as this will disfigure the city and its scale.
Nope, in 10 years the city will be completely transformed by other buildings anyways. This one's just getting a tiny head start.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:16 AM   #6744
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Nope, in 10 years the city will be completely transformed by other buildings anyways. This one's just getting a tiny head start.
Agreed. You must start somewhere. 432 Park Avenue is the start.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:17 AM   #6745
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what floor number are we at?
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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:22 AM   #6746
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what floor number are we at?
If they add the platforms to the tip of the column forms, that will be the floor of Floor 7. The very top of the core where the concrete pumping crane lies is equivalent to the floor of Floor 10.

After they add the platforms, pour the column forms and pour the slab, they "should" enter the 4-day cycle phase of constructing each floor.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:36 AM   #6747
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Since the last floor pour on 4/2, the events that have taken place are:perimeter column rebar placed, perimeter beam columns placed, climbing exterior forms placed on the 57St side. Columns were poured. In addition, the metal decking was being placed on the Park Avenue retail space structural beams. New crane tower sections await to be placed to jump the 56St crane.

Today, all four perimeter beam reinforcing was hoisted and placed. The 57 St perimeter beam reinforcement had to hoisted up and over the core and placed, before the core could be raised. For those who wondered why it took seemingly long to raise it, since the core was poured 4/5 (last Friday), the placement of the 57St beam reinforcement had to be placed first, since the clearance requirement of the reinforcement, slings, and spreader bar (the blue beam used to lift the reinforcement) over the core with the crane at its present height is critical.

An interesting observation for those who have watched the beam reinforcement being placed, is the taglines used to guide the long pieces into position. If one looks closely, it can be seen long lines attached to the ends and quarter points along the reinforcing, that the workers use to swing the rebar into position. It will be interesting to see how the beam reinforcing is placed as the building rises, and it becomes more and more exposed to wind.

Someone asked why the order of operations seem different from previous. First, the transition from 4 to 7 columns on the 57St side required new stainless steel climbing forms. A new floor has not yet been formed, and a building section drawing posted on the skyscraper page site, post number 3686, shows the vertical space as double height (if I read the dimension correctly, it is 31'-6") between floors 6 and 7. If one looks closely at the perimeter, there are worker platforms to the inside of the perimeter beams, which seems to indicate that no floor will be formed at this level.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 03:16 AM   #6748
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[IMG][QUOTE=sw5710;6080147][QUOTE=NYguy;6015487]
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Posted this for you. it seems like its gonna be the same thing from here (floor 7/8) to floor 13.

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Old April 9th, 2013, 03:35 AM   #6749
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I love the 432..but, I was just thinking...don't tall buildings sway a Lot?? What happens if it sways a lot (especially as it doesn't appear to be a aerodynamic streamlined design)? And it's such a tall concrete structure. Will it crack?
14,000 p.s.i. concrete is being used for the majority of the tower. That's the same strength as 1WTC's concrete bunker of a base.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 04:50 AM   #6750
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buildings as tall as this will disfigure the city and its scale.
It's barely taller than 1 WTC's roof.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 05:44 AM   #6751
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According to the diagram, the top of the core is at about 210 feet. From lowest to highest floor it's 266 feet, but street level subtracts just under 50 feet.

EDIT: I doubt SSP has all the buildings in the entire city cataloged, but it is about the 1,700th highest building in the city if that counts for anything!

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Old April 9th, 2013, 08:05 AM   #6752
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Posted this for you. it seems like its gonna be the same thing from here (floor 7/8) to floor 13.
so there will be three more double height floors after this one, two complex double floors, two normal floors, then a double height mechanical floor.
Looks like it could be a while before it will be rising steadily.
I wonder when they will start to put in the glass.

EDIT: just realised that is basically what NYGuy said
Wait, so the double floors will actually be counted as one floor?
So will the actual height be equivalent to 93 standard floors?
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Old April 9th, 2013, 10:11 AM   #6753
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I don´t know whether this has been already posted or not, if yes my sincere apologies but anyway it deserves to be posted again, because its an awesome render.


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432 Park fits in the skyline very well IMHO.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 10:34 AM   #6754
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Sorry if this was already asked but do the actual residential floors start at 19F then? Or I suppose we could call that the "23rd Floor" if we go by window spacings. Can't blame them of course for giving the high-caliber residents some kind of view and I'd imagine you'd need to be 20-30 floors up in downtown NYC to start seeing much of anything besides the building next to you.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:27 PM   #6755
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Maybe a crane jump coming as they are moving the new bits around, fingers crossed its a jump not just clearing space.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 03:25 PM   #6756
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With today's activities: 8th floor, 157' 5'' (48m)

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Old April 9th, 2013, 04:14 PM   #6757
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Old April 9th, 2013, 04:20 PM   #6758
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432 Park fits in the skyline very well IMHO.
Just because in that shot u can barely see the boring design.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 05:00 PM   #6759
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Maybe a crane jump coming as they are moving the new bits around, fingers crossed its a jump not just clearing space.
Yes they have several tower sections ready on the curb to go up...also pouring today...columns and beam on 56 street side...also decking the street level over I beams park and 56 retail corner
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And starting with a new floor on the 56th side this time.
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