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Old April 16th, 2013, 04:41 PM   #6901
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Hey guys, I just want the forum to know that I will be attempting to create a close to life replica of 432 Park Avenue in Minecraft, since the design is simple enough it shouldn't be too hard to do.
Methinks the "architect" beat you to this with his original concept.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #6902
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A minor quibble that is my pet peeve... there is no "official" height. There are many valid ways of comparing buildings. Perhaps what you are referring to is CTBUH's opinion on height to architectural tip. Their politicization or biased ruling on 1WTC has done much to discredit their opinion. Because they are counting the mast on 1WTC, they should also count the masts on other buildings, but they're not. In my opinion, this make their architectural height list completely worthless.

Thankfully, Kanto, the maker of many of the height conparison pics posted to these forums, also prefers roof height comparison.
I prefer roof height as well, just a 1500 foot tower looks bigger than a 1250 foot tower with a spire. There's simply more mass protruding into the skyline. That doesn't say a spire looks bad it's just that more mass is usually better.

Regarding the "official" height, I checked SSP.com and looked at the NYC buildings under construction WTC 1, 432 and ESB were all listed in that order, even if their pinnacles were out of order, so I assumed there was some sort of "official" height determination.

Regarding 432 Park today, I'm not sure if they've poured the core, but if they have, then we might be in luck to see a core jump of some nature today.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 07:03 PM   #6903
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Oh yes, I didn't notice that. It could be what you say, but it also could be that those cables are just to hang the piece when they were installing (and they let them there) And that bracket is bolted with those seen above, I guess must be the last.



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It can't be bolted because when crane swings and moves this has to have freedom to move up and down.
Thanks for the clarification guys! I would love to be able to see this tower rise in person.

When I was a teen, I remember watching the Trade Center rise and thinking "when will they stop?" When this beauty rises above 700 ft. or so, I imagine quite a few New Yorkers will think the same.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 08:18 PM   #6904
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seems they're pouring the core right now
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Old April 16th, 2013, 08:25 PM   #6905
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Hey guys, I just want the forum to know that I will be attempting to create a close to life replica of 432 Park Avenue in Minecraft, since the design is simple enough it shouldn't be too hard to do.
It's a shame the height limit is 256 meters (though that's quite a bit for a game rendering that many blocks.) If they could somehow double it to 512 meters that would allow for a lot of accurate skyscraper replications.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 09:56 PM   #6906
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It's a shame the height limit is 256 meters (though that's quite a bit for a game rendering that many blocks.) If they could somehow double it to 512 meters that would allow for a lot of accurate skyscraper replications.
i would love to build so many skyscrapers arround the world 1:1 in Mincecraft...but with the 256 blocks height limit it's impossible. even 512 are too less for some of the new towers. 1024 would be perfect for now!
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Old April 16th, 2013, 10:05 PM   #6907
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Old April 17th, 2013, 03:51 AM   #6908
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i would love to build so many skyscrapers arround the world 1:1 in Mincecraft...but with the 256 blocks height limit it's impossible. even 512 are too less for some of the new towers. 1024 would be perfect for now!
There is Cubic Chunks, but it hasn't been updated for a while. One option would be to download an older version of Minecraft, and use the mod with that if you don't mind missing out on some of the more recent blocks. If there are any newer blocks you really want, you can always retexture some blocks.
you would probably need a mod to extend the view range as well, because the current maximum is barely enough to see the top of structures built with the current limit!
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Old April 17th, 2013, 04:32 AM   #6909
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There is Cubic Chunks, but it hasn't been updated for a while. One option would be to download an older version of Minecraft, and use the mod with that if you don't mind missing out on some of the more recent blocks. If there are any newer blocks you really want, you can always retexture some blocks.
you would probably need a mod to extend the view range as well, because the current maximum is barely enough to see the top of structures built with the current limit!
Just a suggestion - Why don't you guys just learn to use a real 3d modeling package like Max, Maya or even Sketchup? Or Blender, which is great and even free. It just sounds painful to mess around with a software that's not designed for this at all and doesn't give great results...
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Old April 17th, 2013, 04:45 AM   #6910
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It's a shame the height limit is 256 meters (though that's quite a bit for a game rendering that many blocks.) If they could somehow double it to 512 meters that would allow for a lot of accurate skyscraper replications.
Darn I forgot about that low height limit, I guess I just will build up to as high possible. screenshots will be coming soon
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Old April 17th, 2013, 03:05 PM   #6911
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You've got talent. Maybe you could become a SSP diagram drawer. There are still countless buildings even in NYC that don't have a drawing there
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Nice, but you know the Statue of Liberty is as high as the Flatiron Building.
I like the idea of having the Apple Store at the bottom of 432
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Old April 17th, 2013, 04:20 PM   #6912
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Old April 17th, 2013, 06:01 PM   #6913
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walked by the site yesterday and the day before and got a couple photos.

i asked one of the workers about the glass and he said we should see it in about a month





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Old April 17th, 2013, 06:18 PM   #6914
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That is awesome that they will be putting in glass so soon!

Concrete trucks on site all morning but no apparent pours on top.

Could they be pouring inside the core?
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Old April 17th, 2013, 09:06 PM   #6915
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The building to the right is called Falic Fashion Group, so the 432 park being built next door will be pretty appropriate for them (of course, the Gherkin would have been much more appropriate)
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Old April 17th, 2013, 09:33 PM   #6916
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They've raised the core!

from a few days back:

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The worked hard on the floor slab today.

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Old April 17th, 2013, 09:45 PM   #6917
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the fastest core jump so far? seems it reached regular speed now
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Old April 17th, 2013, 10:06 PM   #6918
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The last core jump was on april 8th, 9 days ago. I guess that by the next one and so on we can expect at least a weekly core jump. The question is if we still will be able to see them, since it will go out of the vision field of the cameras very soon. I think they should let the current Park ave camera, so we can see the ground action, but add another one in a higher level. They should raise the 57th and 56th st. cameras aswell.

They also began to put new rebar cages for the columns.

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Old April 17th, 2013, 10:06 PM   #6919
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the fastest core jump so far? seems it reached regular speed now
Smooth sailing from here on out. Maybe some slow-down at the mechanical floors, but it'll be fascinating to see this rise uniformly and quickly.

Hmm, wondering if they'll poor the 7th Floor slab.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 10:10 PM   #6920
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So are we at a point where we can expect 1 floor per week??
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