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Old April 27th, 2013, 02:58 AM   #7081
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This. I agree, tim. That seems a logical reason for the material scaffolding. Viewing the site in person one can't help but notice its spacial limits - indeed it's an extremely confined space. And yet, still this tower seems massive!

Anywhooo, as promised, my iphone shots from my lunchtime stroll today ...
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(can someone instruct a brotha on how to post these pix individually where they show without the links? Thanks in advance!)
Cool shots... I'm amazed they let you get so close. Did they make you wear a hard hat? ;-)
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Old April 27th, 2013, 03:55 AM   #7082
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Anyone walking on the north side of 56th St can get that close.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 03:45 PM   #7083
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Yeah, Bob's right, Dbronx ... anyone can get thisclose just by walking down that narrow street - that is, when they're actually working on the site. Otherwise (on Sundays and after hours) that gate's closed, and other than two small holes where chain-linked lock pads secure the site, views like what I've captured are impossible.

And I stand corrected! Looking at the webcam, it appears that structure to the right of the elevator shaft is in fact an elevator as well, and not just a staging platform! Hmmmm...

On an slightly unrelated point ... Two things that I'm curious about: The first - I'm interested to see how they're gonna deal with the eyesore that is the backside of the buildings visible from 56th Street. The plans we've seen say 'ivy wall', but that's rather vague ... Perhaps we'd get a complete understanding of what the street-level views will look like if and when they release more detailed renders of the ground level exterior spaces (ie., the retail base, lobby, 'sculpture garden', etc.) Heck, while they're at it, I wouldn't mind seeing the renders of the 'amenities' (pool, restaurant, gym, anyone?)

And finally, I know the architecture calls for six floating towers and the two-story open spaces in between are to serve as both mechanical areas and residential terraces. Those gorgeous renders recently released show that they'll be lit at night - to a lovely effect I might add - but how's that gonna work for the actual residents? I mean, I imagine it'd be rather difficult to enjoy a view lounging on a terrace with those bright lights. It doesn't fit here. On a commercial building, sure, that's perfect. Residential? Not so much.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 04:20 PM   #7084
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^ that's interesting that is the first time I heard about terraces at those floating towers!! Actually, I did not know there where going to be terraces at all on 432 park.

Just like to say thanks for sharing your photos and keep them coming!
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Old April 27th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #7085
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My pleasure, VG! More pix are forthcoming; I'm leaving the apartment shortly to shoot this (and several other) sites again today!

And yeah, man, I've seen the diagrams and it clearly states 'residential terrace' ... I tried searching for them on SSC, to no avail, but i know they're posted on SSP if you're interested. What's so cool about those terraces is that the residents will have the lower level of that two-story opening, so it'll be more like a veranda - in most cases, hundreds of feet above Manhattan... That's just the epitome of awesome to me.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 06:25 PM   #7086
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Can someone explain how the new elevator being constructed on the 56th Street side will work? Will it rise with the tower, or is it meant just for the basement?

I don't get why it appears to have two floors built into it? If it is meant to go from ground level to any floor they need an open shaft - not floors blocking movement.

I just don't get what is going on with that.
Isn't it the same as the hoists for 1WTC?

Here is a picture of the hoist that use to be on the west side of 1WTC. It was the same as the one that is on the east side of 1WTC, except it didn't go all the way to the top of the building. There are four masts that support the unloading/staging platforms at each floor. Then there is a mast on the left for two cabs. And a mast on the right for two more cabs. You can see all four cabs here.

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This shows the east hoist and the fifth cab that moves on the "front" side:

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...which looks the same as this:

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Right now 432 Park Ave. only has a mast on the left for side cabs. I suppose they may add one to the right, which will allow for five cabs total, just like at 1WTC.

At 1WTC they removed the right-side mast (and two cabs) a few months ago on the east hoist, then they added it back. Recently they removed the mast on the left side along with the motors for those two cabs.


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Old April 27th, 2013, 06:51 PM   #7087
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I wonder, how much weight can these elevators lift?
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Old April 27th, 2013, 07:44 PM   #7088
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Isn't it the same as the hoists for 1WTC?

Here is a picture of the hoist that use to be on the west side of 1WTC. It was the same as the one that is on the east side of 1WTC, except it didn't go all the way to the top of the building. There are four masts that support the unloading/staging platforms at each floor. Then there is a mast on the left for two cabs. And a mast on the right for two more cabs. You can see all four cabs here.




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Cool, thank you for showing, they are the same indeed.

BTW, they are already placing new column cages on the west side, and they seem to be pouring the core, maybe we'll have a new jump by monday? stay tune.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 08:28 PM   #7089
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A retrospective view of the construction since february:

april 27th



april 23rd




april 17th



march 22nd



march 11th



march 8th



february 12th



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Old April 27th, 2013, 10:16 PM   #7090
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What a beautiful building, NYC is lucky to have this building and lucky to have a man like Macklowe taking the chance with these projects.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 10:51 PM   #7091
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Anyone walking on the north side of 56th St can get that close.
I guess all you have to do is stick the lens through the fence.
Some pics look like if they were taken at the site itself. Well done @BrooklynFlyGuy
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Old April 28th, 2013, 04:36 PM   #7092
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Pix from 4/27/2013 ...

Thanks, Eric ... (and hey, save yer keystrokes! Folks know me simply as "BFG" )...

So, I spent some time at the site again yesterday, watching them affix rebar to the beams for installation on the tower. Interesting. I always assumed the beams came to the site pre-assembled...

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Old April 28th, 2013, 05:30 PM   #7093
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Photo 21 in that post shows how huge these windows will be. This will look glassy.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 05:41 PM   #7094
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Great update BFG Soon it will be visible from alot more places.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #7095
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why are there such small windows/ holes under the normal ones in the last pic?

how tall is the tower at the moment?
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Old April 28th, 2013, 07:15 PM   #7096
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why are there such small windows/ holes under the normal ones in the last pic?

how tall is the tower at the moment?

That is because the transition from 4 to 7 columns is there. You see it in the orange graffiti.
And it is 62 meters.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 07:35 PM   #7097
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Not sure if they poured the core yet. If they have and jump it Monday, there could be a chance for two core jumps this week.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #7098
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I'm pretty sure thay were pouring it yesterday, at least it seemed so.

In this picture you can see the arm working.

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Old April 28th, 2013, 10:36 PM   #7099
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Yeah, Bob's right, Dbronx ... anyone can get thisclose just by walking down that narrow street - that is, when they're actually working on the site. Otherwise (on Sundays and after hours) that gate's closed, and other than two small holes where chain-linked lock pads secure the site, views like what I've captured are impossible.

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And finally, I know the architecture calls for six floating towers and the two-story open spaces in between are to serve as both mechanical areas and residential terraces. Those gorgeous renders recently released show that they'll be lit at night - to a lovely effect I might add - but how's that gonna work for the actual residents? I mean, I imagine it'd be rather difficult to enjoy a view lounging on a terrace with those bright lights. It doesn't fit here. On a commercial building, sure, that's perfect. Residential? Not so much.
GREAT shots BFG - looking at them really makes me homesick... In the '70s and '80s, I used to love to walk from 96th St. down to the Village - taking in all the changes going on. Your shots from a distance, kinda gives me that feeling again.

As for the renders showing the terraces lit at night... while this is just speculation, often features are shown lit to add more flash to the project, but are not implemented when completed. Alternately, I imagine it would be quite windy up there, so I doubt many residents will be lingering in the voids very long.
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Old April 29th, 2013, 03:59 AM   #7100
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This building is so tall for residential use! Isn't it slightly taller roof height wise than the WTC?! Another building I will see from Long Island yay!

Wonder how much rent is in a typical room there...6k?
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