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Old May 22nd, 2013, 07:11 PM   #7441
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432 Park Avenue timelaps: Sep.26, 2011 - Feb.28, 2013.

EDIT: it's the same timelaps shown at 432park.com

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Old May 22nd, 2013, 07:25 PM   #7442
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how many floors until the first open spaces ? (mechanical)
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 09:28 PM   #7443
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I don't know, but I don't think it would be very noticeable when thei are buiding them. It would be just like any other double floor. The difference will be seen once the building is finished, and those floors won't have glass in the windows, and at night they probably get some special ilumination, that would emphasize those spaces, with the cilinder that will be in each of them.
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 10:49 PM   #7444
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how many floors until the first open spaces ? (mechanical)
First open mechanical floor will be 16-17 they are at 10-11 now so a few more floors yet...but from pool floor to 16 are all single floors

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Old May 22nd, 2013, 11:01 PM   #7445
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As I expected they have lifted all four forms today and started with the new floor.

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Old May 23rd, 2013, 01:09 AM   #7446
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I took a close look at the windows they have installed this morning and confirmed an interesting detail that you can also see in some of the floorplan drawings posted here. I mentioned this before some months before when discussing exterior. the face of the glazing appears it will be flush with the face of the building but there is a small reveal around the edge that looks to be maybe 6" wide and deep which creates a strong shadow line frame around the windows. this may seem insignificant but it will be THE defining detail on an otherwise extremely minimal facade. If you look closely at some of the recent pictures you can see this feature.
Here's a version of My Google Earth model taking into account the reveal you mention......

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Old May 23rd, 2013, 01:24 AM   #7447
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 05:26 AM   #7448
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Damn I wanted to see a pic of a window, somebody said they were installing them, but by the time I get home from work,, it's dark in NY. Can't check out the cams in the dark. BFG if you go out this wknd and take some pics, try to get a good 1 of the windows.. Thanks
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 12:03 PM   #7449
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Interesting to note that there are quite a few "double height apartments. Then there is the "structural transfer no occupancy" on floor 29...what the heck is that?
If I were to guess, it's basically meaning "mechanical floor". In a regular building, floors are stacked on top of another, so every floor carries the weight of all the floors above it. However, this is impractical for very tall buildings, seeing as the bottom floors would have to be heftily reinforced to bear all that weight. Instead, they reinforce levels at certain intervals, which bear the load only of the floors from there and up to the next reinforced level. Most of, if not all, of the weight is transferred to the load-bearing core, and the floors below carry little to no weight.
It can be compared to stacking plates in a cupboard. You can (for instance) stack fifteen plates on top of each other in each of three shelves, for a total of 45 plates. However, each shelf only carries 15 plates, and no plate bears the weight of more than 14 plates above it. Instead, the weight goes directly to the cupboard bearing.

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All the structural elements (here: trusses) also mean the reinforced floor is unfit for occupancy. Instead, you can have storage rooms, ventilation, elevator machinery and other things in there. Those don't need large, comfortable rooms or big windows to function properly.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 05:39 PM   #7450
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 07:12 PM   #7451
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Nice render Damo! Really enlivens the facade...now another challenge...how about the little horizontal and vertical relieving lines where the columns and beams join?
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I wonder what color the glass will be? this will have a big affect on the appearance. The three installed windows are still protected.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 07:23 PM   #7452
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Damn I wanted to see a pic of a window, somebody said they were installing them, but by the time I get home from work,, it's dark in NY. Can't check out the cams in the dark. BFG if you go out this wknd and take some pics, try to get a good 1 of the windows.. Thanks
This was posted a few days ago
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Old May 24th, 2013, 03:16 PM   #7453
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Really cracking on with this build now so much so we are starting to loose a good view on whats going on, maybe 2 more jumps and the majority of the action will be out of sight. Really hope they can lift the cams up a few floors.
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Old May 24th, 2013, 03:46 PM   #7454
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Really cracking on with this build now so much so we are starting to loose a good view on whats going on, maybe 2 more jumps and the majority of the action will be out of sight. Really hope they can lift the cams up a few floors.
I hope so too, they have been pretty good getting the cams adjusted quickly so I am sure they will move them soon.

It's going to suck when we no longer this view as it is too high...but a good thing at the same time.
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Old May 24th, 2013, 07:45 PM   #7455
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I hope so too, they have been pretty good getting the cams adjusted quickly so I am sure they will move them soon.

It's going to suck when we no longer this view as it is too high...but a good thing at the same time.
I agree. The Four Seasons is across the street is plenty high to accommodate a great view for a while before it's get too high. However by then it'll be easier for some forumers to take pictures from afar and well get more updates. (Assuming the forumers are nice enough to do that.)
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Old May 24th, 2013, 09:18 PM   #7456
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I agree. The Four Seasons is across the street is plenty high to accommodate a great view for a while before it's get too high. However by then it'll be easier for some forumers to take pictures from afar and well get more updates. (Assuming the forumers are nice enough to do that.)
Indeed, in a year nobody in a radius of 10 km has to go outside to see it.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 03:23 AM   #7457
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Most people will spend several hours scratching their heads wondering how it was built, why it was built with a design like this, whether they like it or not, etc... I'll certainly anticipate the reviews it gets once completed. To me it gives off a grunge vibe. The building doesn't care how it looks or how it affects its environment, and I love that about it.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 06:07 AM   #7458
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Personally I find the building all too boring & dull, couldn't it have a little more design to it rather than being a plain jane Jenga tower that nobody will notice it for other than height?
That said, I suppose it is in-keeping with New York style.

This would look awful in London UK, or anywhere else in Europe & Asia.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 08:16 AM   #7459
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Personally I find the building all too boring & dull, couldn't it have a little more design to it rather than being a plain jane Jenga tower that nobody will notice it for other than height?
That said, I suppose it is in-keeping with New York style.

This would look awful in London UK, or anywhere else in Europe & Asia.
It would look way too out of proportion in London, NYC has much taller buildings and more of them so it blends in a little better, yet still sticks out like a sore thumb. As for the building, it's kind of bland but for me but I really really appreciate the fact that it's a solid 1400 foot building to the roof with no tapering, setbacks, spires or crowns, it's kind of like a skinny version of one of the twin towers in a way.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 03:15 PM   #7460
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Most people will spend several hours scratching their heads wondering how it was built, why it was built with a design like this, whether they like it or not, etc... I'll certainly anticipate the reviews it gets once completed. To me it gives off a grunge vibe. The building doesn't care how it looks or how it affects its environment, and I love that about it.
Interesting, I was anticipating an effect almost the opposite of grunge. The bright white concrete will gleam in the sunlight. The white will appear brighter than an all glass clad tower which reflects the blue or gray sky.

Also, despite the columns being massive, once the glass is in, only the narrow side of the columns will be visible. I think this will make the overall look of the building more delicate and sleek than might be anticipated from these early photos. The overall effect will be more of slender elegance rather than hulking mass.
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