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Old May 31st, 2013, 10:31 PM   #7561
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And instead of windows I think those are vents.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 11:00 PM   #7562
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It's a HVAC, or water shed, or equipment shed or whatever - in any event it isn't a structural part of the building. So given your position on not counting spires I'm not sure why you count it.
Since it is just a small HVAC unit after all (and you're right, it is one, I just checked google maps), then no, it isn't counted towards roof height. However, the white structure to the right of it, which Jconyc mentioned is a parapet behind which there is a water tower. Water towers aren't counted however parapets are (take 1WTC, 4WTC, 7WTC or Goldman Sachs for example). So in fact the true height of that building is even above what I have marked
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Old May 31st, 2013, 11:01 PM   #7563
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That Wallpaper video gives a pretty detailed look at the frame around the windows. I hadn't noticed before, but it looks like the gap is wider below the windows than it is on the sides and above:

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Anyone venture a guess as to why that might be, or do we think that's purely aesthetic?
Marshall, I was thinking about your question and it seems there is sill approximately 18 -24" from the floor. That would explain the gap on the outside bottom.

The top of the perimeter beams are flush with the floor slab; the windows are not floor to ceiling.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 06:03 PM   #7564
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The one installed window looks very shiny in today's sun.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 06:11 PM   #7565
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WTC progress on facebook used Funkyskunk2' rendering.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 06:14 PM   #7566
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Old June 1st, 2013, 08:37 PM   #7567
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Marshall, I was thinking about your question and it seems there is sill approximately 18 -24" from the floor. That would explain the gap on the outside bottom.

The top of the perimeter beams are flush with the floor slab; the windows are not floor to ceiling.
Ahhhh, the sill. That's right, I should have remembered that from the interior renders.

Still, it seems like they could have filled that space to make the gap around the window even on all sides -- either with concrete or some sort of frame. Not that I'm bothered by it, it's actually rather nice once you realize what you're looking it. It just seemed like a surprising choice. A little asymmetry in such a meticulously patterned facade.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 08:43 PM   #7568
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Just seen the glass on the livecam for the first time and it appears to stick out very slight from the facade, it's hard to tell really, looking at it closer it looks like there's a gap surrounding the whole sheet of glass, very nice!
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Old June 1st, 2013, 10:30 PM   #7569
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Uhhh... I don't understand what You mean by the '...?
Each side is 93.5 feet, so the perimeter is 374 feet.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 10:33 PM   #7570
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Just seen the glass on the livecam for the first time and it appears to stick out very slight from the facade, it's hard to tell really, looking at it closer it looks like there's a gap surrounding the whole sheet of glass, very nice!
I see what you mean. I think it would look better with the glass more inside the facade, but we'll see.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 10:15 PM   #7571
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 10:22 PM   #7573
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From the 57th Street side.

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I haven't noticed the slanted in concrete inside other windows. Is this the shape of all the windows or is this one different?

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Not sure how or why this concrete got so dirty so fast. I hope this doesn't happen to this building even after construction finishes otherwise this could quickly go from a bueatiful structure to an eyesore quickly.

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Old June 2nd, 2013, 11:18 PM   #7574
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I wouldn't be too worried about that dirt, after all it's in the construction phase so that happens fast, I'm sure it won't happen so fast after the opening.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 11:57 PM   #7575
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Is this how the entire cladding will be?
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 11:59 PM   #7576
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The upper part yes, the lower part not

Btw, now we can see that the window isn't reaching between the window hole, so it'll be just as in the renders
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 12:13 AM   #7577
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that concept of a bare concrete facade is just brilliant.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 02:28 AM   #7578
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From the one photo showing the dirt and streaking, it's all vertical so probably caused by the slipforms moving or some extra concrete leaving marks.

I'd still imagine the facade, well, concrete in this case will get a cleaning before the opening just like any project.
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From the one photo showing the dirt and streaking, it's all vertical so probably caused by the slipforms moving or some extra concrete leaving marks.

I'd still imagine the facade, well, concrete in this case will get a cleaning before the opening just like any project.
I'm sure it will get a cleaning and will look awesome when it opens. I just hope this white concrete doesn't dirty easy or if it does that they have a way of cleaning it on an ongoing basis.

The air quality in New York is quite bad and if you look at older buildings you can see they get really dirty. On many buildings it may not matter that much but on this one it will look very bad.

Come to think of it that may explain why so many buildings have entirely glass cladding - easy to clean.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 06:57 AM   #7580
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I assume the billionaires who will live here will understand maintenance of the concrete is necessary and pay whatever is required.
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