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Old July 11th, 2013, 03:18 PM   #7961
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Old July 11th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #7962
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It won't be like the taipei's. I remember reading in this thread in 432 park ave it will be a huge tank with water.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 05:05 PM   #7963
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Could be the Baccarat Hotel...(?)
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Old July 11th, 2013, 05:39 PM   #7964
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Apparently there are even 96, but mechanical floors will probably not be counted?
that would make it as tall as the sears tower
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Old July 11th, 2013, 06:05 PM   #7965
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http://therealdeal.com/blog/2013/07/...2-park-avenue/

Macklowe, CIM plan another $85M penthouse at 432 Park
Developers have chopped total units while boosting overall price to $2.89B

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So according to this article the tower has gained one floor. Floor count should be changed to 90.
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Yeah you' re right, the DOB papers show 96 floors. Thread title should be changed then.
No, this building, if you count the windows, will have 89 floors+a ground floor, you can easily figure it out by dividing the height of the building 1398ft. between the height of the floors, knowing every single one of them will be 15,5 ft.

The actual floors will be less, about 84, since there are some double height floors (30 ft.) mechanichals and others.

The numbering of the building by the developers is relatively arbitrary and it doesn't reflect the actual number of floors., You can read that in the very same article.

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The developers have two methods for counting floors: “construction,” which is the true number of stories, and “marketing,” which is the number associated with the apartments being sold. For example, there is no 13th floor. Currently, 432 Park Avenue is slated to have 84 construction floors; the top floor for marketing purposes is 101, according to the most recent offering plan. But the amendment shows 85 construction floors and identifies the top marketing floor as 102.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 07:19 PM   #7966
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Old July 11th, 2013, 08:14 PM   #7967
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It won't be like the taipei's. I remember reading in this thread in 432 park ave it will be a huge tank with water.
I dunno, but isn't such a water tank kinda prone to damage? A hole in the wall of it and it would completely loose its weight
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Old July 11th, 2013, 09:43 PM   #7968
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Apparently there are even 96, but mechanical floors will probably not be counted?
mechanical floors should be counted as well. they're used floors.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 09:58 PM   #7969
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Heck...it's just another $3m to buy a studio unit for my help. No problemo.

432 Park Avenue aims to sell some staff quarter units for nearly $3M: PHOTOS
Development has two floors of studios to accommodate employees of owners upstairs
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Developers CIM Group and Macklowe Properties have shoehorned 25 units with an average size of 472 square feet into the building’s lowest residential floors, on 28 and 29. The units, meant to house staff for the owners of the apartments above, have seen the largest appreciation in asking prices for any individual units in the last year, information from the New York Attorney General’s Real Estate Finance Bureau shows.
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In the same time, the staff units saw an average price increase of 49 percent per square foot. They jumped from $3,050 per square foot on average to $4,541 per square foot during that same period, the AG filings show. The prices range from the 342-square-foot Unit 28L, with views north overlooking 57th Street, available for $1.53 million, to the 615-square-foot Units 28G and 29G, priced at $2.875 million.


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Though staff quarters are fairly common in very high-end apartments and townhouses, they are often included within the living area of the unit owner, and not on a separate floor.

“There are many staff quarters in old, prewar buildings, with many now used as private offices,” said Jonathan Miller, CEO of appraisal firm Miller Samuel.

But demand among buyers in new developments is there, he said. While a staff floor may seem like a throwback to the days of Downton Abbey, developers like Extell Development and Zeckendorf Development have included them at One57 and 15 Central Park West, respectively.

“It is an enhancement to value. The separation gives both the staff and the owner privacy,” Miller said.
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Kirk Henckels, director of the high-end-focused Stribling Private Brokerage, said he expected buyers at 432 Park to purchase staff units for uses other than housing their employees.

“The majority of these will be for personal use or a guest room. In the case of 432 Park, it’s mostly global people who are not living here full time,” he said.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 10:26 PM   #7970
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No, this building, if you count the windows, will have 89 floors+a ground floor, you can easily figure it out by dividing the height of the building 1398ft. between the height of the floors, knowing every single one of them will be 15,5 ft.

The actual floors will be less, about 84, since there are some double height floors (30 ft.) mechanichals and others.

The numbering of the building by the developers is relatively arbitrary and it doesn't reflect the actual number of floors., You can read that in the very same article.
I'm well aware of developers cheating with floor counts (Trump World Tower, One57...). I have to check the DOB papers once they get approved, they usually list the real floor count. With that additional floor (see article), the count should be at least 90.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 10:42 PM   #7971
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I dunno, but isn't such a water tank kinda prone to damage? A hole in the wall of it and it would completely loose its weight
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Old July 11th, 2013, 10:52 PM   #7972
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hmmmm. thinking of a career change right about now. free studio in 432 park? down.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 11:21 PM   #7973
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Heck...it's just another $3m to buy a studio unit for my help. No problemo.

432 Park Avenue aims to sell some staff quarter units for nearly $3M: PHOTOS
3M for a 50 sqm studio. They cost 20 times less over here.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 05:09 AM   #7974
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That's why it'll gonna have a tuned mass dampener
they could also make a ventilation (all 4 sides) in each transfer level/mech-floor to let some of the wind flow through the building, then reducing the wind impact & helps the structure from swaying too much, right?
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Old July 12th, 2013, 06:34 AM   #7975
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Like Taipei 101's?
I notice school, xing, lane, written on streets of new york. What does that means?
They're traffic signs. XING is an abbreviation for "Crossing", and the others are self-explanatory.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 08:51 AM   #7976
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Old July 12th, 2013, 11:47 AM   #7977
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I really don't like this building for some reason. It just seems unoriginal to me, since 90% of the buildings in New York are just a steel box.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 01:48 PM   #7978
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So this is a concrete box for a change.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 02:33 PM   #7979
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they could also make a ventilation (all 4 sides) in each transfer level/mech-floor to let some of the wind flow through the building, then reducing the wind impact & helps the structure from swaying too much, right?
Yup, that's what the open drum sections are there for
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Old July 12th, 2013, 06:09 PM   #7980
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Man, the site's as busy today as I've ever seen it. It's barely 11:00 A.M. and forms have already been raised and netting is beginning to come up. Looks like some small cranes on the 56th Street side have arrived and begun digging for the podium. External elevators have not been raised yet. There are a bunch of various trucks on site as well. Today's a great day to go to the building's website and watch for yourselves.
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