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Old August 19th, 2013, 10:36 PM   #8361
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2 cement trucks just arrived on site. 59th and Park cams are both down, so we can't really tell what's going on right now.
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Old August 19th, 2013, 11:07 PM   #8362
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Someone is going to have a fun time powerwashing that thing a thousand feet up.
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Old August 20th, 2013, 12:15 AM   #8363
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Am I reading the heights correctly? This building will actually be taller to the roof than 1WTC?
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Old August 20th, 2013, 12:53 AM   #8364
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Yes, and yes.
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Old August 20th, 2013, 06:53 AM   #8365
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Wow that diagram above,, 432 dwarfs it's black neighbor..
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Old August 20th, 2013, 07:40 AM   #8366
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That building isn't really short by any means either. It's just mindblowing the difference of scale in height there. It makes the (Franklin?) Building look like some generic apartment low-rise or something, when that tower seems to almost be 40 floors in its own right.

432 is going to be totally flipping sweet once it passes everything around it.
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Old August 20th, 2013, 05:37 PM   #8367
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Yes, and yes.
Interesting. So after 12 years the replacement for the World Trade Center won't even be the tallest building in New York. AT least it will be the tallest in the downtown district.

Disclaimer: Like many others I personally don't count fancy telephone poles wired to the roof....
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Old August 20th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #8368
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The look of the exposed concrete is normal. They'll just wash it down after construction is finished. The bug holes are a bit distracting... I would have thought that the finish would have been smoother.

In the future, things like carbonation causing reinforcing steel corrosion may become an issue, but hopefully there was enough concrete cover designed into the surface reinforcing to reduce the risk of that happening.

You could put a clear penetrating sealer onto the concrete surface, which might protect against staining, but more than likely you're going to see 'mustache-ing' at the window sills. A.K.A. the soot from the city will stain the concrete where water runs off (I didn't see any drip edges anywhere, so I can only assume this is going to happen). Having said that, you can maintain the surface with a good pressure washing every now and then, but then a window sealant replacement would likely be necessary at the same time ($$$).
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Old August 20th, 2013, 06:27 PM   #8369
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Great updates by ILNY. Now I'm pretty sure the concrete still has to be processed in some way. I can't believe they would leave it like that.
Not only will it be cleaned, I wouldn't be surprised if the voids were skimmed in with color matched cement. That is fairly common on architectural concrete.
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Old August 20th, 2013, 06:35 PM   #8370
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I saw no insulation in the walls. Is the structure massive enough to have some insulation value of its own just by the thickness of the concrete ?
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Old August 20th, 2013, 11:24 PM   #8371
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New core jump!
This one has to be definitely the fastest one they've achieved. Last one was on August 15th, so, excluding sunday, they've reached a four-day cycle as we've been told time ago! We will see if they maintain the speed.
BTW, the Park Ave cam has been out of service for a few days, I wonder if they are changing the ubication of this camera as well.


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I saw no insulation in the walls. Is the structure massive enough to have some insulation value of its own just by the thickness of the concrete ?
Not to mention that actually, this building doesn't really have exterior walls, just the exposed structure and the big windows.

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Old August 20th, 2013, 11:29 PM   #8372
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I saw no insulation in the walls. Is the structure massive enough to have some insulation value of its own just by the thickness of the concrete ?
concrete doesn't do much in the way of conduction. Works pretty well as an insulator at this size.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 12:04 AM   #8373
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is that now surpass the black building??? with the new lift of the core
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Old August 21st, 2013, 12:10 AM   #8374
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Old August 21st, 2013, 12:14 AM   #8375
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I'm not really sure how I feel about this tower really. It's going up so fast. I guess I'll have to wait until it's higher up in the sky to give it a better opinion.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 12:46 AM   #8376
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Damn that's tight, the formwork is about as high as the Franklin National Bank Building, but the core has to jump one more time.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 02:00 AM   #8377
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We had a core jump this afternoon, yes? Given that, I think this is likely now as tall as its black neighbor. So that is a significant milestone.

I love to be able to see the floor supports being laid out again. And gosh do they seem fast at doing it. They worked on it part of a day on Saturday and continued and finished on Monday. Clearly they have it down to an art now. Except for bad weather it looks like this will be flying from here on out.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 02:29 AM   #8378
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It does indeed look like there was another core jump!

And I agree, the new camera is in a perfect position to watch the construction grow for some time to come!
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Old August 21st, 2013, 07:48 AM   #8379
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The next milestone should be surpassing the art-deco hotel looking building to the South.

We haven't any renders of the entrance to the South, have we?

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Old August 21st, 2013, 04:53 PM   #8380
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Wow that diagram above,, 432 dwarfs it's black neighbor..
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We had a core jump this afternoon, yes? Given that, I think this is likely now as tall as its black neighbor. So that is a significant milestone.
Are we really that lazy that we can't look up the structure's name or address?




Yes. Yes we are!


That's too d*** funny.
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